Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.92]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC024-a8d64c0198c292; Sat, 29 May 2010 18:44:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D7E5338000085; Sat, 29 May 2010 18:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OIUkL-0006xC-Jp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:43:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OIUkL-0006x3-6Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:43:13 +0100 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OIUkI-00017u-UP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 29 May 2010 23:43:13 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUKAI41AUxOk8O2/2dsb2JhbACHXYpbjAVxvC6CUIJGBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,324,1272841200"; d="scan'208";a="301444373" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.195.182]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 29 May 2010 23:43:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001701caff80$4d00df40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002801caff4a$19054900$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <005301caff5d$3092d110$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 23:43:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: VLF SIGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405c4c0198c0125a X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim The frequencies I quoted have a 750 hz offset that is why I said not calibrated, just a rough reception guide around the frequency area of interest. The signals are all very loud with me. I can accurately calibrate when necessary. Not sure if it is a good idea to connect my antennas directly to the soundcard, maybe via an attenuator for front end control. I also have a W & G 220 hz - 20 khz RX which is very sensitive but wideband and would be a better approach if I feed this into the sound card. I have a number of options available here I just need a beacon on 9 kcs de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:35 PM Subject: LF: Re: VLF SIGS > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > Everyone can receive those signals in the UK, even with fairly poor > receiving conditions (actually copying the traffic would be another matter - > I wouldn't go there ;-)). Most are quite strong, and in a different octave > of the spectrum from amateur activity, so not really a good receive > performance check - rather like using BBC R4 on 198kHz as a test for 136kHz > reception performance. But the frequencies you list are a long way out, a > few hundred hertz low. There is spectrum display at > http://abelian.org/vlf/spectrum.shtml with station IDs and accurate > frequency calibration. Bear in mind that you do need to be able to set the > RX frequency within a hertz or less, and have much less drift than that, for > the kind of DX tests that have been done recently. Better in that case to > dispense with the converter and RX, and just feed the signals direct into a > PC sound card - frequency errors will be much smaller, and if you are using > a reasonably large antenna, you probably won't even need a preamp. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:31 PM > Subject: LF: Re: VLF SIGS > > > Does anyone else copy these signals? If not forget about VLF. > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:15 PM > Subject: LF: VLF SIGS > > > Not calibrated > 16.2, 18.1, 19.4, 20.1, 20.7, 21.8, 23.1, 23.8 Khz > All the above freqs active rtty type sigs and strong. > nil hrd below 16.2 Khz at present > No alpha sigs hrd today > > mal/g3kev > > > >