X-GM-THRID: 1230823090997090563 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.73.3 with SMTP id a3cs189560wal; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr1804135ugm.1173804371303; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e33si9849713ugd.2007.03.13.09.46.08; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HRA5p-0005Du-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:21 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HRA5o-0005Dl-Gu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:20 +0000 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRA5i-00089A-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 54680 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2007 16:43:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:x-mimeole; b=oPIxV2MlyQsDZhasf0OTKSyNQdWCyMtIeDIe5YVwt8I5y2V7QyN/aHQFBa4Fi+NlraxXa7uUlUDJhcYqw5UW13mBMqZg7wZfIxmR2LpAXihnTZOMvo1vonGKStZs8KxXuZZ3MEHSYA8t3njt9VAjvkBDvN2l0Xqs9ADfnOcTzNw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.5.24 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2007 16:43:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YXBT2qAVM1mcKtQoGaGLCIPZkVsq5qqr6InRM9Bw7qIG4mI9iAwTJnfu5hzq44muiVIXmQbz0q2M.8ndaCB4FSD8FWkDma9VFT3BWs4.iTrNN0ZnmeJlBJRvbm2qhCw3X8qPdft3py.aEsz9ARxlXOykeMCtktOYSIDebQ6zvQ-- Message-ID: <001701c7658e$ae06ef80$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <8bf118410703130819n576c0c26t11a38427a2008a8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:43:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.519 Subject: LF: Re: 500 bandplan? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3936 Hi Dave for my threepen'orth the answer is "Not yet" I think the max number of signals I have seen at any time was probably 4, or maybe 5. I dont think we have a qrm problem yet. Certainly 500 to 501.5 is affected by 50Hz sidebands from the TV Line harmonics. These are only bad here when I have my set on. It does not seem to be too difficult to watch the whole band with a waterfall and detect signal that cannot be heard. My inclination is to say let us get more operators on and then there will be more people with experience to debate the detail. Never mine the "plan" get a signal on ! At first thought the 504 end might be a good place for those wishing to contact 505-510kHz stations, but that makes it difficult for anyone locally listening for DX. So maybe the 501 end would be better for TX. 501 sounds a good place for QRSS beacons There seems plenty of room and not the qrm from nearby commercial stations we suffer on 136 which means that different part of the world need to use different prefered frequencies. My vote goes for the old favourite of "doing nothing 'til it bites us!" ....and a definite "NO" to another reflector ! Plenty of room (bandwidth?) on this one. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Pick To: LF Group Sent: 13 March 2007 15:19 Subject: LF: 500 bandplan? > Someone had to ask the question "Do we need a band-plan?". > > Finbar is beaconing down the bottom, which seem OK to me, I've been trying > for QSOs near the top because my local noises seem to congregate near > 501kHz. Do we want to suggest areas for different activities like on 136? > In fact do we need to set up a Google / Yahoo group (or is there already one > going) for European 500k activity to be discussed or is this the place to do > it? > > Questions questions! > > Discuss... > > Dave. > > -- > G3YXM IO92BK Birmingham UK >