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[195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id jr6si912863wjc.99.2013.12.13.07.01.41 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 07:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1VrTYd-0005ye-Oo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:17:35 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1VrTYd-0005yV-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:17:35 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.6]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1VrTYa-0000nN-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:17:34 +0000 Received: from cpsps-ews24.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.190]) by cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:17:30 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.19]) by cpsps-ews24.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:17:30 +0100 Received: from acer ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:17:31 +0100 Message-ID: <001601cef80e$0aa30710$0802a8c0@acer> From: "henny" To: References: <004f01cef7de$8b595150$0802a8c0@acer> <707D6451372E4AE39EDC95525A89B108@White> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:17:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2014.0.4259 [3658/6915] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2013 14:17:31.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F60DD40:01CEF80E] X-RcptDomain: blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: ok Marcus,LF, Tu for the explanation,i will keep the pc running, henny cpm 73, ----- Original Message ----- From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: 74614 12-13 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.75.39.6 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 9bd342c7d74bc0c7d15d59c1164ca995 Subject: Re: LF: 74614 12-13 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CEF816.6C3FC2D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1977 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CEF816.6C3FC2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok Marcus,LF, Tu for the explanation,i will keep the pc running, henny cpm 73, ----- Original Message ----- From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: 74614 12-13 Henny, thanks for this good capture, showing Bob's signal squeezed in between th= e QRM lines. It's a bit more difficult than Opera because WSPR-15 requires = about 0.73 Hz clear bandwidth. We should also note that the "nominal WSPR f= requency" seems to be not the center but the lowest of the four tones. Unfortunately I didn't get any decodes here. This is not really surprisin= g, looking at the DCF77 noise patterns on my WSPR-X screen http://dl.dropbo= xusercontent.com/u/26404526/wsprx_74614Hz_131213_0034.png which hardly changed during the course of the night. Probably my best bet would be to ask Bob to go to 74603.6 Hz. Then the to= nes would sit in a DCF minimum, and also be well above the nearest Loran li= ne (74603.2804 Hz from Sylt), thus should be pretty clear everywhere in Hol= land, the UK, and Germany: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/74604Hz_131213_1100.png Best wishes, Markus (DF6NM) From: henny Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:37 AM To: blacksheep Subject: LF: 74614 12-13 Gm Bob,LF The capture, henny cpm 73, No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6915 - Release Date: 12/12/13= ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6915 - Release Date: 12/12/13 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CEF816.6C3FC2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok Marcus,LF,
Tu for the explanation,i will keep the pc = running,
henny cpm
73,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12= :20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 74614 12-13
=

Henny,
 
thanks for this good capture, showing Bob's signal squeezed in between the QRM lines. It= 's a bit more difficult than Opera because WSPR-15 requires about 0.= 73 Hz clear bandwidth. We should also note that the "nominal WSPR frequency" seems to be not the center but the lowest of the fou= r tones.
 
Unfortunately I didn't get any deco= des here. This is not really surprising, looking at the DCF77 noise patterns on&nbs= p;my WSPR-X screen http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/wsprx_74614Hz_131213_= 0034.png 
which hardly changed during the course o= f the night.
 
Probably my best bet would be to ask Bob= to go to 74603.6 Hz. Then the tones would sit in a DCF minimum, = and also be well above the nearest Loran line (74603.2804 = Hz from Sylt), thus should be pretty clear everywhere in Holland, the UK, an= d Germany:
 
<= FONT face=3DArial>Best wishes,
Markus (DF6NM)=

From: henny
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: LF: 74614 12-13

Gm Bob,LF
 
The capture,
 
henny cpm
73,

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4259 / Vir= us Database: 3658/6915 - Release Date: 12/12/13

No virus found in= this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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