Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.134]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG011-5f224b3f7b051e1; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:57:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E949238001E23; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NR7GI-0004Wa-KD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:55:34 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NR7GI-0004WR-3q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:55:34 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NR7GG-0006x5-8k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:55:34 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksFAG4JP0tcGJzk/2dsb2JhbACNQQaOV7VpgiOCDgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,489,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="413381207" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.24.156.228]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 02 Jan 2010 16:55:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001601ca8bcc$53480ae0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:55:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: LF: 500 SHAMBLES Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA8BCC.52FE30A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40864b3f7ac450cd X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA8BCC.52FE30A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are now 3 SM beacons active on 500 khz, one using SSB and th= e others on QRS MODE plus the DL beacons plus others. This band is gra= dually being choked with QRM generators. I am sure this sort of activi= ty was not intended for 500. There are hundreds of Nav beacons worldwide active around 500 for prop= agation test purposes, so I do not know why we need any more.amateur= beacons. There is very little exchange of real time information in QSO mode. The LF BAND 137 khz is a different story with lots of QSO'S taking pla= ce and virtually no beacons. de G3KEV =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA8BCC.52FE30A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There are now 3 SM= beacons=20 active on 500 khz, one using SSB and the others on QRS MODE plus= the DL=20 beacons plus others. This band is gradually being choked with&nbs= p;QRM=20 generators. I am sure this sort of activity was not intended= for=20 500.

There are hundreds of Nav beacons wor= ldwide=20 active around 500 for propagation test purposes, so I do not know= why we=20 need any more.amateur beacons.

There is very little exchange of= real=20 time information in QSO mode.

The LF BAND 137 khz is a different st= ory=20 with lots of QSO'S taking place and virtually no beacons.<= /DIV>

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