Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23130 invoked from network); 16 May 2001 22:04:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 16 May 2001 22:04:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 16514 invoked from network); 16 May 2001 22:04:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 16 May 2001 22:04:11 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 1509JP-0003Is-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:58:31 +0100 Received: from mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.19]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 1509JO-0003Ig-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:58:31 +0100 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.24]) by mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010516215716.SVKM2483790.mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:57:16 +1200 Message-ID: <001601c0de53$748810e0$18b21bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: LF: Re: Sunspot Cycle & LF Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:27:23 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim and others, > The graphs in Terman show only a modest 3-4 dB variation in > signal level over the sunspot cycle - but what they don't show is > what the signal-to-noise ratio was. The high noise level on LF is > one of the major factors deciding if communications can take place > or not. If a lot of the background noise on the band is from distant > electrical storms, one would expect the noise level to be subject to > the same propagation effects as the signals are. It could go either > way I suppose, so I await the solar minimum with interest. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz As an anecdotal comment, in ZL, when we started on LF in the early 1990s, the DX propagation seemed to be better than it is now. We were doing quite well for DX, and first-built transmitters were generally lower power than are used nowadays. I've also had a look at ITU-R propagation graphs, but they are confusing to interpret as they are normalised. As somebody else commented on, the thrust of some ITU-R work is to determine reliable ground wave coverage for LF and MF broadcast stations, and the likes of sporadic transcontinental DX is not in their terms of reference for results. My opinion is that LF DX is statistically better around a sunspot minimum, late at night, in winter. 73, Bob