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Content preview: This would be Ideal for the Appliance Operators on MF g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Melia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer [...] Content analysis details: (3.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 3.7 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: b28d3e72b5adfaf9991664afe0a993a6 Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CDF721.83F2C7C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b9650fc0b472002 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CDF721.83F2C7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This would be Ideal for the Appliance Operators on MF g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Melia=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 Hi Graham :-))......I seem to remember the original keyer on GB3VHF = was a disc with pegs in which acted as cams closing a pair of contacts, = with the disc driven by a small synchronous motor. Alan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:19 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 Well nothing too serious , Marconi auto alarm -m had a = machined cam with the call sign machined round the edge ? I like the idea of a round train track , with the right foil = lengths could send Opera=20 A variation on the PIC =3D Paper Incremental Collator=20 From: Alan Melia=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 Except it is not a new design!! This how Samual envisaged that = messages would be sent! It only a little later that ops became adept at = hand forming of the codes and even later reading the inker clacks by = ear. Prob over 150 years too late :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: LF: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 This has potential for automation=20 Model railway in a loop track may be ?=20 G.. = http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2013/unusual_ham_radio_morse_send= er.htm?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+= AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UPsAM_JCd8E ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CDF721.83F2C7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type = content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=3DMailContainerBody=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 CanvasTabStop=3D"true"=20 name=3D"Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This would be Ideal for the Appliance Operators = on=20 MF</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>g3kev</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dalan.melia@btinternet.com=20 href=3D"mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">Alan Melia</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2013 = 11:24=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: New = desigin of JTN=20 auto keyer </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Graham :-))......I seem to = remember the=20 original keyer on GB3VHF was a disc with pegs in which acted as cams = closing a=20 pair of contacts, with the disc driven by a small synchronous=20 motor.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alan</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=20 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, = 2013 12:19=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: New = desigin of JTN=20 auto keyer </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Well nothing too serious , = Marconi auto=20 alarm -m had a machined cam with the call = sign =20 machined round the edge ?</DIV> <DIV>I like the idea of a round train = track ,=20 with the right foil lengths = could send=20 Opera </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A variation on the PIC =3D = Paper =20 Incremental Collator </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3Dalan.melia@btinternet.com = href=3D"mailto:alan.melia@btinternet.com">Alan=20 Melia</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:55 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CTRL + Click to = follow link"=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: Re: New desigin of JTN auto keyer=20 </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Except it is not a new design!! = This how Samual=20 envisaged that messages would be sent! It only a little later that = ops=20 became adept at hand forming of the codes and even later reading the = inker=20 clacks by ear. Prob over 150 years too late :-))</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alan</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3NYK</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk CTRL + Click to = follow link"=20 href=3D"mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk">Graham</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CTRL + Click to = follow link"=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 19, = 2013 8:48=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: New desigin of = JTN auto=20 keyer </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>This has potential for automation </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Model railway in a loop track may be ? = </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>G..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A=20 = title=3D"http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2013/unusual_ham_radio_m= orse_sender.htm?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_ca= mpaign=3DFeed%3A+AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UPs= AM_JCd8E CTRL + Click to follow link"=20 = href=3D"http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2013/unusual_ham_radio_mo= rse_sender.htm?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_cam= paign=3DFeed%3A+AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UPsA= M_JCd8E">http://www.southgatearc.org/news/january2013/unusual_ham_radio_m= orse_sender.htm?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_ca= mpaign=3DFeed%3A+AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UPs= AM_JCd8E</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CDF721.83F2C7C0--