Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.203]) by air-mc08.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMC081-a9834dd4032032; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:34:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C20863800004F; Wed, 18 May 2011 13:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QMkbT-0000uW-CU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:32:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QMkbS-0000uN-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:32:10 +0100 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QMkbQ-00066v-2s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2011 18:32:10 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvwAADMC1E1cB99J/2dsb2JhbACTO4QUjkx4p0yfHYYZBIIxnFY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,232,1304290800"; d="scan'208,217";a="353026265" Received: from host-92-7-223-73.as43234.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.7.223.73]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 18 May 2011 18:31:59 +0100 Message-ID: <001501cc1581$7e91a360$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: "rsgb" Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:32:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Fw: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CC1589.E00E7B10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cb4dd403170adb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CC1589.E00E7B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC Stefan There is no substitute for a few watts CW mode from a valve TX/RX and= a piece of wire if we want reliable communications, no third party in= volved like ISP and no EMP problems to ZAP the fragile Chips inside an= appliance operator box. Pedal power, wind generator or small electric generator and some Wet= batteries provides the DC. Keep it simple. This is what NFD is all about. I once saw a small home= made steam driven generator on a NFD site, a bucket of coal and some= water for the steam engine and an old automobile 12v dynamo. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; mal hamilton ; Albert=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC The message seemed to be stopped by the reflector. Once again... 73, Stefan -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Experimen= tal QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC=20 Datum: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:17:15 +0200=20 Von: Stefan Sch=E4fer =20 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Tnx to PA0A and G3KEV for the test signals! Pics attached. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 17.05.2011 15:42, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > Mal, > > Could you try again. Haven't seen your transmission and didn't colle= ct=20 > the captures. Now collecting and watching... > > 73, Stefan > Am 17.05.2011 15:24, schrieb mal hamilton: >> Stefan >> Grabbers working FB on 137 Khz sensitivity restored, tested 1323= z=20 >> today >> 73 de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:31 AM >> Subject: LF: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC >> >> >>> Hello LF, >>> >>> I just set up a temporary QRSS-1 grabber at >>> http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_LF_Grabber3.ht= ml >>> It is fast updating each 20 seconds. The scroll rate is 200 ms/pix= , FFT >>> bin width is 1.34 Hz. Maybe it helps a bit to exchange more inform= ation >>> for strong local stations. >>> >>> The webpage and capture is minimized to allow fast updating. So no >>> counters and that stuff... >>> >>> It is not intended to make a new alternative standard but rather= to do >>> some local experiments. >>> >>> Any kind of feedback is apprechiated. >>> >>> Vy 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> PS: Unfortunately i have some local noise by a SMPS here but thats= just >>> for a few hours during other experiments here by the working group= s... >>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CC1589.E00E7B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

Stefan
There is no substitute for a few watts CW mode= from a=20 valve TX/RX  and a piece of wire if we want reliable communicatio= ns, no=20 third party involved like ISP and no EMP problems to ZAP the fragile= Chips=20 inside an appliance operator box.
Pedal power, wind generator or small electric= generator=20 and some Wet batteries provides the DC.
Keep it simple. This is what NFD is all about.= I once saw=20 a small home made steam driven generator on a NFD site, a bucket= of coal=20 and some water for the steam engine and an old automobile 12v=20 dynamo.
 
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011= 4:47 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: LF: Re: Exp= erimental=20 QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC

The message seemed to be stopped by the reflector. On= ce=20 again...

73, Stefan

-------- Original-Nachricht ------= --=20
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC
Datum: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:17:15 +0200
Von: Stefan Sch=E4fer "><schaefer@iup.uni= -heidelberg.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


Tnx to PA0A and G3KEV for the test sig=
nals! Pics attached.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 17.05.2011 15:42, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:
> Mal,
>
> Could you try again. Haven't seen your transmission and didn't co=
llect=20
> the captures. Now collecting and watching...
>
> 73, Stefan
> Am 17.05.2011 15:24, schrieb mal hamilton:
>> Stefan
>>   Grabbers working FB on 137 Khz sensitivity restored, tested=
 1323 z=20
>> today
>> 73 de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer"<Stefan.Schaefer@=
iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
>> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:31 AM
>> Subject: LF: Experimental QRSS-1 grabber at DK7FC
>>
>>
>>> Hello LF,
>>>
>>> I just set up a temporary QRSS-1 grabber at
>>> http://www.iup.u=
ni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_LF_Grabber3.html
>>> It is fast updating each 20 seconds. The scroll rate is=
 200 ms/pix, FFT
>>> bin width is 1.34 Hz. Maybe it helps a bit to exchange mo=
re information
>>> for strong local stations.
>>>
>>> The webpage and capture is minimized to allow fast updati=
ng. So no
>>> counters and that stuff...
>>>
>>> It is not intended to make a new alternative standard but=
 rather to do
>>> some local experiments.
>>>
>>> Any kind of feedback is apprechiated.
>>>
>>> Vy 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>>>
>>> PS: Unfortunately i have some local noise by a SMPS here=
 but thats just
>>> for a few hours during other experiments here by the work=
ing groups...
>>>
>
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