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(VPS 100627-1, 27/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: AW: Problems with RSGB LF reflector Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m247.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40924c27cd0629b4 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not the list-owner but I often pick up these queries on his behal= f. We have had this problem before and it is nothing to do with the RSGB lis= t. The problem lies in aggressive spam blocking of one of the intermediate no= des or even the blacksheep service provider. I am afraid in the past we have= had little success clearing this problem. I suggest Daniele starts with hi= s own service provider and askeds them why they are not able to deliver. Cer= tain addresses have been tagged as transporters of significant volumes of= spam and many of these are now blacklisted out of hand. It is an easy solut= ion for the ISP. If you (Daniele) had been having trouble with the blacksh= eep system you would not have had a fail message........blacksheep just du= mps messages it doesnt like and does not send responses to avoid the "ping= -pong" effect. If Daniele has another mail address I suggest he tried that to= see if that will get through. He will not be able to unsubscribe his alice= .it address from any other address, and it may mean he will get two copies= of every posting. If he genuinely wants to unsubscribe an address he shou= ld amil me directly and I will passon a reqyest for the owner to do it. Sorry for the problems Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" To: "Daniele Tincani" Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: LF: AW: Problems with RSGB LF reflector Dear LF administrators, Daniele sent me this mail since he has problems (see below). Could any= body from the administrators help him? I think i do not have the authority= to unsubscribe him ;-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ________________________________ Von: Daniele Tincani [mailto:daniele.tincani@alice.it] Gesendet: So 27.06.2010 10:57 An: Stefan Sch=E4fer Betreff: Problems with RSGB LF reflector Hello Stefan, my apologies for bothering you with this issue. Currently I'm not able anymore to send messages to the RSGB LF reflect= or. I always get errors from my e-mail provider saying that "the recipient= 's destination email system is unknown or invalid". For the same reason I cannot unsubscribe neither I can try to re-subsc= ribe. Could you kindly try to unsubscribe daniele.tincani@alice.it on my behalf? Then I would try to subscribe from a different address. Many thanks Daniele