Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: (qmail 81069 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 14:09:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 14:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 88823 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 14:09:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 14:09:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Adrts-000MLj-Mk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:09:40 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Adrtc-0003iA-Fh for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:09:24 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.44] (helo=mta4-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Adrtb-0003i1-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:09:23 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.85]) by mta4-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040106140922.XFJZ13664.mta4-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:09:22 +0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <001401c3d45a$7fb4b400$55e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000201c3d2f3$c4fb5f40$61e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <6.0.1.1.2.20031229161651.027e8660@POP3.freeler.nl> <000001c3d009$acf7a620$c7e47f50@Smisan> <6.0.1.1.2.20040103121138.0280f960@POP3.freeler.nl> <000601c3d2c3$2bd34e70$b733f7c2@johnb5a82ea1a4> <6.0.1.1.2.20040104163146.027efbe0@POP3.freeler.nl> <000201c3d2f3$c4fb5f40$61e4fc3e@l8p8y6> <5.1.0.14.0.20040106090928.03a8c2a0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:25:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Horizontally polarised radiation Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be href="mailto:rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be">Rik Strobbe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Horizontally polarised radiation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hello group,<BR><BR>It is an "idée fixe" that a horizontal wire must radiate a horizontal polarized EM-wave.<BR>A nice example of a mechanical horizontal construction that radiates a vertical polarized signal is the DDRR antenna.<BR>So a large horizontal topload close to ground will in most cases improve the antenna efficiency (reduce the loss resistance ... footprint theory) but the radiated signal will be nevertheless mainly vertical polarized.<BR><BR>73, Rik ON7YD<BR><BR>At 17:47 5/01/2004 +0100, you wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rik</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with your observations. Some are being misled by computer modelling and antenna theory not applicable to the type of small LF antennas used by radio amateurs. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite"><B></B> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite"> <DL> <DD><STRONG></STRONG> <DD><STRONG></STRONG><BR><BR> <DD> <DD><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><BR> </DD></DL> <DIV> </DIV> <DL> <DD> </DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>