Return-Path: Received: (qmail 59032 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2004 22:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Apr 2004 22:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 61902 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2004 22:34:16 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Apr 2004 22:34:15 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BIEg3-000FsV-2s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:34:15 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BIEec-0006p6-1S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:32:46 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BIEeZ-0006nx-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:32:43 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BIEeW-0004EU-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:32:40 +0100 Received: from tnt-21-64.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.228.64] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1BIEeM-000FMJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:32:31 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (erica) Message-ID: <001301c42be1$246ee5a0$40e486d4@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <742496369.20040423163034@t-online.de> <001301c42abf$a13bfdc0$437c7ad5@rogersservices> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:51:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA in 5WPM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060806080906050504070307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060806080906050504070307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jim, M0BMU said > Over the last week or so, VO1NA has mostly been about -10dB to -15dB below > the audible threshold. This gives good "O" copy at QRSS30, and would mostly > be OK at QRSS3. But, at best, the signal has been about 7dB below the > audible threshold. The 5wpm signal is visible as a "smudge" on the > spectrogram, but so far has not been audible. So Hartmut's reception is > remarkable - the SNR at his QTH must have been 10dB better than they were > here, which shows the degree of variation that exists between different > locations. I agree. The attached shows what Joe's signal is like here most of the time when conditions are reasonable. This capture done last night at 0320z, Argo on 20sec slow. The noise before the signal is visible might have been a 5wpm transmission. 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