Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2192 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2001 16:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2001 16:38:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14351 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2001 16:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 13 Apr 2001 16:38:32 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14o6Uz-0003oy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:32:41 +0100 Received: from ruthenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.138] helo=ruthenium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14o6Uw-0003op-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:32:38 +0100 Received: from [213.122.250.226] (helo=dave) by ruthenium with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14o6UV-0002IV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:32:11 +0100 Message-ID: <001201c0c437$67821e80$e2fa7ad5@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <002001c0c3ab$e4b58860$1b3f073e@default> Subject: LF: Re: diplexer ....more Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:31:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC I am always a bit puzzled at how low pass filters work with a real antenna load, which is only 50ohms or anything near it at the resonant frequency of the antenna. At other frequencies it will present a highly reactive load, which not only makes the theoretical response just that (theoretical) but also reflects high voltages back to the pa. At one time I was also considering a lpf/hpf arrangement similar to Alan's but didn't persue the idea - it will indeed safely sink harmonic responses, but will possibly make close in reflected signals worse by upsetting the input impedance of the lpf. When I was going through a phase of blowing up FETs, I found this was indeed caused by low frequency instability in the pa, but although I tried various things to tame the input side of the FET I felt the real problem was of highly reactive loads being fed back to the drain circuit from antenna mismatches - and with my loop I don't need to go very far off resonance to get those. Most blowups occurred when I accidently transmitted a few hundred Hz off the 1-1 swr frequency (and occurred of course instantaneously, glad I have foldback limiting on my power supply!). I found the only way to prevent these instabilities was to put impedance in the supply side of the output network, in my case a small ferrite ring with 3 turns on it in series with the output coupling transformer killed them and I have had no blowups since - but at a power loss as this ferrite gets rather hot.. See the circuits on my website if this doesn't make sense. I am of course using a single FET at a relatively low 35W. Obviously when you have multiple FETs and a few hundred watts you have even less scope for accidents. But it really does seem that the output side is where to concentrate, not at the input which has been suggested. I have in fact always used dc coupling direct from transistor drivers (based on ideas of Finbar in the earlier source book) - I have an improved version using a Scmidtt trigger for my next tx, that is not finished yet but promises a more stable drive less dependent on the input level from my FT101ZD. Cheers Dave G3YMC dsergeant@btinternet.com dsergeant@iee.org http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk