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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:44:51 -0000
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Subject: LF: Re: Re:  CQ WW
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Jim
Not sure to whom u are addressing your QSO procedure remarks.
I have made numerous QSO'S over the years on QRS mode and know exactly how
to proceed and do agree with you, but I hope others take notice.
I have noticed this year that QRS QSO'S are getting far too long winded by
some sending Name and Locator for example.
also prolonged sending of callsign when an ID is already established.
Some have got so used to Beacon mode that they have forgotton how to engage
in a QSO.
QSO mode needs procedural Skill whereas the beacon operator just plugs away
hoping that he might be heard/seen and generates lots of QRM into the
bargin.
I copied XGJ solid last nite on his first call but unfortunately he had QRM
problems and I did a QSY and he missed my request to STOP so that I could
give him a OOO report and hopefully receive one back. The previous nite I
was visible on the Jay and Dex grabbers which they kindly switched on.
With my antenna system at present, same TX/RX antenna,  TA signals peak
around 2400 utc building up before and tapering off after then peak again
just before sunrise.
You know my LF antenna system, 3 x inv L in parallel each approx 100 ft
vertical and 450 ft horizontal tapering down at the far end, small litz
wound loading coil and matched to 50 ohms going to TX/RX
Power at present about 0.5 w erp and can QRO to 1 w erp from home made TX
73 de mal/g3kev




----- Original Message -----
From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:46 AM
Subject: LF: Re: CQ WW


> Dear Warren, Mal, LF Group,
>
> I took the opportunity of your sked to try simultaneous reception of the
Eu
> / NA QRSS windows - really, I was hoping G3XDV would be transmitting as
> well, since he is only about 11km from me and would be a good challenge
for
> the receiver. I think it is possible by carefully adjusting the various
> gains to reduce the "splatter" caused by such a local signal to allow the
> copy of relatively DX signals within a few hertz. This didn't happen, but
I
> was able to simultaneously receive WD2XGJ, G3KEV, PA0A, RA3AGC and DF6NM.
> The attachment shows signals from about 2245 - 0112utc; it is screen shots
> from two instances of SpecLab edited together, and the scroll rate was
> increased at about 0000, which is why the time markers don't match up
> perfectly.
>
> Concerning QSOs in QRSS with very long dot periods, I think this shows how
> it is most important to agree the format and the protocol for the QSO
before
> starting. I think the generally accepted format goes something like:
>
> XGJ KEV K (for a sked, or CQ KEV K for a random QSO, repeat as necessary)
> ...then...
> KEV XGJ O K
> XGJ KEV R O K
> KEV XGJ R TU SK ...(end of QSO)
>
> It is probably best to decide from experience who is likely to be the
weaker
> received signal, and for that station to make the initial calls, since
then
> subsequent overs are most likely to succeed. If one station fails to
> completely receive an over, they should repeat their previous over so that
> the other station can repeat also. Some will insist that complete
callsigns
> should be used for the initial overs, but I think most agree on the
> abbreviated calls, especially for a sked. Some people omit the "K" at the
> end of an over, or substitute an "E", but I think this is a bad idea
because
> under marginal conditions it is harder to tell when the other station has
> stopped transmitting.
>
> Hope this is helpful - better luck next time!
>
> Cheers, Jim Moritz
> 73 de M0BMU
>