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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:23:29 +0100
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Hi Gary it sounds OTT but when you consider the effects of falling off a
ladder at 20 feet ....loss of earnings, medical fees, legal fees, loss of
effort (ability to make money) to his company, it isnt so silly.  ( I say
this with feeling after tripping backwards over a pavement edge a couple of
year ago and breaking an arm at the shoulder) The problem is you cannot rely
on people to use common sense so they must be "dragooned". It is amazing the
way a lot of people climb ladders incorrectly  at home!!

Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ae rigger 'job' anyone


> I failed to mention the goggles whilst drilling & the helmet he wore.
>
> Gary.
>
>
>
> On 16 September 2010 11:01, Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Mark & All,
> >
> > I recently watched a rigger install a digital TV aerial on next door's
> > gable end.
> >
> > He drilled the lower wall, fitted a large ring & fixed webbing straps to
> > the bottom of the ladder from the ring. He then attached a fall arrest
to
> > the ladder, the ladder had wide leg supports at the bottom. He then put
a
> > harness on himself, climbed the ladder, attached his fall arrest clamp &
his
> > harness to the top of the ladder & then proceeded to install the aerial.
> >
> > Installing the aerial took less time than fitting he safety devices.
When
> > he had finished I asked him about the safety devices, he said that all
the
> > riggers at that firm had to do special training & to enable them to
trust
> > the devices they had to fall off the ladder & let the devices protect
them
> > from the fall.
> >
> > And that was just a TV aerial 20 feet up a gable end.
> >
> > BTW, he also stated that if the wall was rendered they could not do the
job
> > as they could not be sure about drilling into a brick correctly.
> >
> > I was not able to view the video that Graham posted as it had been
pulled
> > on copyright grounds.
> >
> > Gary - G4WGT.
> >
> >
> > On 16 September 2010 07:23, Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>  'Free climbing' has been against the law in for climbing masts and
> >> towers etc for years in the UK
> >> Climbers are required to be attached at all times, and fall arrest
devices
> >> with shock adsorbers are commonly used
> >>  Hooking on to a step that is not a closed loop is not going to keep
you
> >> safe if you slip either.
> >> Climbers are trained regulary to ensure that rescue techniques are
> >> practiced and that no bad habits are picked up.
> >> My climbing kit has 2 fall arrest clips and a work position lanyard..
> >> Yes, climbing with double lanyards slows you up, so fall arrest
> >> 'travellers' are used with fixed anchor systesm  on the mast allowing
to to
> >> climb the ladder freely whilst still attached.
> >> These fixed fall arrest systems are found on most masts that I climb
> >>
> >> What the guy in the video did was not brave or clever. Just dumb.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >> GM4ISM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> *From:* Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:31 PM
> >> *Subject:* LF: Ae rigger 'job' anyone
> >>
> >> Ae rigger 'job'  anyone ?
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>