Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20030 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 09:24:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 09:24:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16747 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 09:24:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 09:24:41 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14l5t9-0005jR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:17:11 +0100 Received: from latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net ([195.40.1.40]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14l5t8-0005jM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:17:10 +0100 Received: from ericadodd (tnt-13-75.easynet.co.uk [212.134.22.75]) by latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B431253C38 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:16:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001101c0bdb1$411f3840$4b1686d4@ericadodd> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <14753488.986413695909.JavaMail.imail@chilly.excite.com> Subject: Re: LF: LF Antennas Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:16:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: john sexton said: > Our experiences seem to confirm that this sort of size (i.e. of the order of > a couple of metres in diameter) and particularly the use of low resistance > Litz is optimum. > The number of turns is 10 in Peter's case and 36 in mine and I am still > unsure whether more or less is better... I confess to not having searched for an optimum L/C ratio; I just aimed for what seemed a reasonable LC ratio. The weight of the wire inside the loop enclosure was also a consideration. > Peter suggests that multistranded PVC covered wire would be a good > substitute where Litz is not available. I cannot agree with this - I first > wound my loop with this type of wire and was very disappointed with the > results. If only thin insulated wire were available then the PA0SE type construction would be best.(page 13 of LF handbook) to reduce the loop self capacity. The PVC pipe construction would need a wire diameter of at least 1mm with an insulation thickness greater than .5mm. Even so, it would not be as good as Litz wire. As regards noise, I find a sensitive loop is very susceptible to magnetic QRM (as you might expect) and it has to be sited as far from the house as possible to avoid TV or computer monitor QRM. Regards, Peter, G3LDO e-mail Web