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Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:39:07 -0500
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Subject: LF: Re: Re: TA on 500kHz
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Mal

We're on the same page. Unattended beaconing has it's place, though,  for 
propagation studies.

All three QSOs with Finbar started with one or the other station hearing the 
other's beacon. None of the beacon periods were pre-arranged. When one end 
heard the other end well enough for an attempted QSO an e mail was sent 
alerting the other operator. In at least one case there was a delay (on my 
end) of at least a half hour in retreiving e mail while busy working on the 
bench. We completed the QSO nonetheless.

I don't see much difference between using e mail or an HF link, other than 
the HF link is real time. Once a QSO attempt begins all communication via 
these means must cease...unless you're attempting an X band QSO.

I'm home and available most evenings and will be happy to look for any T/A 
signals on cw, QRSS1, QRSS3...or any other mode for that matter.

Jay





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:06 AM
Subject: LF: Re: TA on 500kHz


> Hi Jay
> I have heard your signal on 500 khz and a qso would have been possible
> provided you could hear me. The Ohio grabber would be useful as an 
> indicator
> when u are active.
> Because of my 1W limit condx would need to be good and there has been
> suitable openings in the past. If normal speed cw does not work probably 
> the
> next best thing would be QRS 1 sec dot and not more than 3 sec dot max, at
> slower QRS speed qsb would be the problem leading to gaps and guesswork.
> I managed a QSO perfectly well with VE1ZZ at normal speed cw because I was
> able to exchange rst and other info on the peaks of my signal, whereas QRS
> would not have worked. It is really being in the right place at the right
> time.
> Beacon acty would be an indicator for you if propagation was optimum but
> unattended beacons would be pointless, if one was not in a position to go
> into QSO mode immediately given the right conditions.
> To respond immediately a link on 3.5/7 mhz would be useful to indicate 
> copy
> at either end and the link needs to be monitored in real time for a quick
> response.
> As far as I can see this is the only approach that will work.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jrusgrove@comcast.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM
> Subject: LF: TA on 500kHz
>
>
>> Mal...and other T/A enthusiasts
>>
>> I'm interested in additional W / EU contacts on 500 kHz. To date the only
>> station I've worked is Finbar ... albeit on three occassions. It would be
>> helpful if those interested would run periods in beacon mode (normal cw
>> speed) so that I can listen for your signals. If I can hear your station,
>> you should be able to hear mine...with the higher ERP from this end.
>> Setting up a sked for a particular night at a particular time is unlikely
> to
>> produce a QSO - conditions vary widely from day to day, hour to hour and
>> even minute to minute over this path.
>>
>> Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:11 AM
>> Subject: LF: Re: TA on 500kHz
>>
>>
>> > Nice qso g3/vo.
>> > Joe if you would like to try a cw qso xband before the winter runs out,
>> > let
>> > me know , others might want to participate also.
>> > 73 de Mal/G3KEV
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Peter Dodd" <g3ldo@ukonline.co.uk>
>> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:37 AM
>> > Subject: LF: TA on 500kHz
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello LFers,
>> >> I had a xband QSO with Joe, VO1NA at around 2230UTC this evening. My
>> >> QRSS3 transmission was on 501.193kHz. I listened for Joe on 7000.5kHz.
>> >> My report was M and I had to repeat his report of 569.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Peter, G3LDO
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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