Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7225 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2004 11:11:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2004 11:11:11 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4HQ0-0009nh-Gs for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:12:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4HQ0-0009ne-EY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:12:16 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1C4HOw-000GhB-V5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:11:11 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1C4HNi-0007re-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:09:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1C4HNh-0007rV-Q1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:09:53 +0100 Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.12]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1C4HNe-0000zR-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:09:53 +0100 Received: from tnt-1-237.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.206.237] helo=erica) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1C4HNR-000GNN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 12:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c49402$4eb5cfc0$edce28c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:11:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.135.6.12 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Save energy, but generate QRM ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Jean-Louis F6AGR said: > Let me introduce to you a new candidate to the "Ugliest 137 kHz QRM > generator Challenge". > I'm talking about the Philips SL.E Pro 16W Warm White light bulb. > This light bulb (quite expensive) saves energy and uses only 16 watts AC to > produce the same light as a 100 watts conventional light bulb, but generates > an horrible noise (multiple discrete frequency lines) all over the 137 kHz > band. About three years ago I tentitively tried out one of these energy saving bulbs and didn't find any interference throughout the LF/HF spectrum and have, over a period introduced more into the house. These bulbs do save a lot of energy, which is a consideration with cost of energy in this country. So perhaps we could draw up a list of low energy bulbs that don't cause interference. Most of the bulbs I have are cheap ones from Woolworths and are described as BIAX V257 made by GE Lighting. As regards electronic 'transformers' could the fix be just to replace it with a conventional transformer? Peter, G3LDO