Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3479 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 16:43:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 16:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18915 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 16:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 16:43:20 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15ECtk-0004Sk-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:38:08 +0100 Received: from smtp.snet.net ([204.60.6.55]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15ECti-0004Sf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:38:07 +0100 Received: from pop.snet.net (pop.snet.net [204.60.6.9]) by smtp.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-mx-1.4/D-1.10/O-1.7) with ESMTP id f5OGbNC16671; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rescueelect (nrwl-sh6-port216.snet.net [204.60.239.216]) by pop.snet.net (8.11.1/8.11.1/SNET-pop-1.5/D-1.8/O-1.6) with SMTP id f5OGbBr03424; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001c0fccc$12e37b80$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Paul A. Cianciolo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@qth.net Subject: LF: antenna modeling of loops? Why not at 136 Khz Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:38:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Folks, I am still not convinced that I should not try the loop antenna first, before the vertical. Although most off the replies I have gotten have been to the contrary. Here are my reasons: Please take issue with any that do not seem to be correct. 1) I have a pulley on my tower at 120' which gives a good location for the apex of the loop. 2) The house and shack is 150 feet away from the tower which would allow me to feed the antenna at approx the middle of the base so feed line would be minimal. 3) The perimeter of the loop (triangle shape ) would be approx 766' more if I can get my accommodating neighbor to allow me access to her property. This is considerable bigger than most of the other loops I have read about on 136 KHz.. So hopefully the efficiency would be better. I have not yet experimented with different size wires or wire cages. Also I am looking for anyone who look at my models with EZNEC 3,0 and see if my results look credible. I could email the files. Thank you all for reading this Here's hoping 136 Khz band arrives in the USA before winter!!!!!! Paulc W1VLF Cloudbounce Webpage http://www.qsl.net/w1vlf/ Rescue Electronic Surplus http://www.rescueelectronics.com 1982 Vanagon Diesel Turbo Diesel 1.9 GE Electrak E20 and E15 electric tractors First place in local tractor pulls at 1750 LBS With Stock E-20 Electric tractor Air Rifle Target Shooting Enthusiast