Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24304 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 10:14:42 +0100 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 10:14:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 25941 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 09:19:12 -0000 Received: from punt.unica.co.uk (194.75.183.60) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 09:19:12 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by punt.unica.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) id 10qvQC-0008ET-00; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:10:20 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA18922 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:09:49 GMT Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA18890 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:09:27 GMT Received: from tk1.ihug.co.nz ([203.29.160.13] helo=smtp1.ihug.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10qvcY-0006uJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:24:13 +0100 Received: from test (p10-max2.chc.ihug.co.nz [207.214.13.10]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id VAA08014 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:05:54 +1200 Message-ID: <001001beb0c4$f8436ec0$0a0dd6cf@test> From: "Dave Brown" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001901beb0b8$a947f950$ab97d28f@kate.geog.le.ac.uk> Subject: LF: Re: Noise update Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:02:38 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org John- re the noise problem. Were the poles with the 'noisy' down wires actually phone line poles or power line poles? Analysis you have done so far suggests the noise is mains related and sourced so it would be surprising if the poles in these cases were phone line poles; but possible if the noise was coming from the exchange, a possibility you seem to have eliminated at this stage. Have you listened near a power distribution xfmr yet? Could be either pole or ground cubicle mounted depending on area etc. Perhaps the noisy down wires were pole mounted transformer grounds? Noise on the earth wires from distribution xfmrs may help indicate if the noise is on the 11 or 33 kV network feeding it/them or not. If you can establish which side of the xfmr has the worst noise you may be on the way to localising the source but a clipon CT on the ground wire/wires may be needed to prove this as receiver listening can be counter-productive due to the radiation from all the myriad wires the energy can couple into and propagate quite long distances over. 73 Dave ZL3FJ