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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:14:52 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb
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This is fantastic news for the Appliance Operator. Follow a basic set=
 up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200 of them growling=
 away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check data base on=
ce a year for possible hits.
I am surprised it is not more popular.
Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by Radio Operators on LF using CW=
 and QRS plus some limited MF activity again using CW.
de G3KEV

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Roger Lapthorn=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb


  Mal,=20

  Some suggestions:

    1.. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100=
 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within=
 just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagati=
on and station performance/changes to be determined.  This would leave=
 plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conv=
ersational modes.=20
    2.. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not=
 UK), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a=
 good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-dist=
ance DX if interference to weak signals is likely.=20
    3.. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant=
 and moan less".=20

  73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector

  Roger G3XBM





  2010/1/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>

    I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs=
 wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us=
 trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot under=
stand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allo=
cation.=20
    The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons.
    Does anyone else have an opinion?
    G3KEV




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is fantastic news for the Applia=
nce Operator.=20
Follow a basic set up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200=
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CW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>de G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Anti Social=
 ssb</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mal, <BR><BR>Some suggestions:<BR>
  <OL>
    <LI><I>More</I> people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more th=
an 100 at=20
    a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within=
 just a=20
    200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation=
 and station=20
    performance/changes to be determined.&nbsp; This would leave plent=
y of room=20
    elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational=
 modes.=20
    <LI>Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not=
 UK), is of=20
    interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's <I>not</I> a=
 good idea=20
    to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX=
 if=20
    interference to weak signals is likely.=20
    <LI>You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant=
 and moan=20
    less". <BR></LI></OL>73s and a happy New Year to all on this=20
  reflector<BR><BR>Roger G3XBM<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2010/1/2 mal hamilton <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<=
A     href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net</A>&=
gt;</SPAN><BR>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am afraid we have a SSB beacon=
 on 508 kcs=20
    spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is ca=
using QRM=20
    to those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA statio=
ns. I=20
    cannot understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a=
 narrow=20
    band allocation. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 500 kcs band is a Shambles sw=
amped by=20
    beacons.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does anyone else have an opinion?=
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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