Return-Path: Received: (qmail 99730 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2005 13:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2005 13:01:49 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1D6720-0003QC-Iv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:03:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1D671t-0003NR-Rb for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:03:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1D672Q-0006FY-69 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:03:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1D66zx-0007CX-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:01:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1D66zw-0007CO-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:01:12 +0000 Received: from smtp.bulldogdsl.com ([83.146.21.7]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D66zv-0005sy-Lo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:01:12 +0000 Received: by smtp.bulldogdsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 11E721F1B3B; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:01:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (host-84-9-70-235.bulldogdsl.com [84.9.70.235]) by smtp.bulldogdsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E381F1A94 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:01:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [266.5.1]); Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:01:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c51e5e$ba9170a0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200502271724500058.0418698B@mail.zetnet.co.uk><005001c51cf8$524d6c40$10b80150@p2300> <200502281113330523.07EADBD4@mail.zetnet.co.uk> <007201c51d8c$ab993a60$37b80150@p2300> <004101c51e54$11e9fa80$2101a8c0@AUG2004> <003d01c51e5a$7da54440$47540150@p2300> <005501c51e5c$5170d220$47540150@p2300> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:01:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 83.146.21.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Locators Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >> That is an interesting historical account but you fail to tell us the >> reasons advanced for not using Lat. Long. ie trigonometrical definitions > on >> a true curved surface rather than draughtsman drawn squares on a >> draughtsman drawn simulation on a flat sheet of paper >> >> G3GVB Seems to be some misunderstanding here. QRA, Maidenhead,GEOREF are all based on lat/lon anyway and are true geographical referencing systems. Their boundaries, squares etc are all derived directly from lat/lon; they're simply attempts to make it easier to describe a lat/lon position without using continuous strings of numbers. What you're thinking of are GRID systems such as the OS's National Grid Reference (NGR) which are indeed drawn on a flat sheet of paper specifically because they're a lot easier to use on paper maps and are designed ONLY to be used on maps. Navigators do not use NGR for navigation - as you will know if you're a sea captain. Grids can only be used over relatively small areas such as the British Isles because they get so much out of sync with the real world over large areas they become unusable. That's why the USA does not use a true grid system like NGR. Incidentally lat.lon uses SPHERICAL trig. relationships. Walter G3JKV.