Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51221 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2004 20:29:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2004 20:29:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 44671 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2004 20:29:42 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2004 20:28:04 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BY9g3-000Prg-4n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:28:03 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BY9em-0006Jw-36 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:26:44 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BY9el-0006Jn-9X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:26:43 +0100 Received: from avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.158]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BYGDG-0004GI-Le for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:26:46 +0100 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.157]) by avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040609202629.RWUF8595.avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:26:29 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: quaycustomer Received: from quaycustomer ([219.89.176.139]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040609202629.GXEW2764.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:26:29 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (quaycustomer) Message-ID: <000f01c44e62$a7b16980$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000f01c44e21$419f6930$1f8e883e@d6y6c7> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:45:03 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: LF: Re: re Xtal osc "delta emitter" tuning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Laurie G3AQC, I'm pleased to hear that you have made use of the idea. My original objective was to be able to readily adjust the frequency of a calibration grade oscillator, for which fractional ppm is adequate. Your 0.5 Hz at 137 kHz is 3.6 ppm. Since my earlier report I received a request to check the slope of the delta emitter gradient, so that it could be used under automatic control in a phased locked loop. I checked a different design Colpitts crystal oscillator to "double check" on gradient matters. I confirmed that the technique worked for fine tuning each, but the slope was "opposite". So if a particular oscillator is to be used in a PLL application, it needs to be characterised for delta slope before designing the VCO drive. Someone reading these postings may have a suggestion as to the semiconductor mechanism(s) that bring about a variation in oscillator frequency. It would be unfortunate if some oscillator design had an S curve for frequency versus emitter resistance. 73, Bob ZL2CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Mayhead" To: Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: LF: re Xtal osc "delta emitter" tuning > Thanks Bob for the sugestion, I have been looking for a means to pull the > oscillator that I use for QRS and DFCW. > The cap. in series with the xtal gives me coarse adjustment and now the > emitter resistance change enables a "fine tune". > I am able to achieve 0.5hz shift in the final 137 khz output. although I > need to reduce the emitter resistance by 50% to > achieve this. > 73 Laurie. > > >