Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10319 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 11:44:39 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 11:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4192 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 11:44:36 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 11:44:36 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18dU8q-0005sB-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:43:00 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.221] (helo=netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dU8q-0005s2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:43:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 19052 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 10:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eastwood.plus.net) (192.168.126.104) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 10:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 28107 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 10:34:44 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 10:34:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14824 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 09:38:42 -0000 Received: from ctuash.sonnetinternet.co.uk (HELO hugh) (212.159.90.113) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 09:38:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c2c6b0$f5ea1e20$0504210a@c.scope> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2D280BB697C7EE4C979C5C89925418EFB05A50@TNS-FBU-2E-003.corp.telenor.no> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:38:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Hummmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Group, Like many just starting out with LF, I'm using an audio amplifier to transmit with. I had a bit of a surprise when tinkering about with it. I had connected a loudspeaker to the output and put a 1kHz signal through as a confidence check, that the amp was working ok. Afterwards I reconnected the antenna, before removing the loudspeaker. As I did so there was a horrible hum - well buzz really, since I have reduced the size of coupling capacitors to give it less gain at low frequencies. It didn't take long to realise that there was a big earth loop. The signal source is referenced to mains earth, and when I connected the aerial (and earth) the amplifier was also connected to RF earth. I have cured the problem by introducing a transformer between the signal source and the amplifier, but I wouldn't have realised that the amplifier was trying to amplify both 136kHz and huge amounts of 50Hz at the same time. If I had a (working) oscilloscope, I would probably have spotted the problem earlier, but it's not something that I expected. I did make me wonder whether hum had a bearing on the mysterious FET and fuse blowing problems with the BK amplifiers - but I expect large amounts of hum would have been quickly noticed when the problem was investigated. 73 Hugh M0WYE