Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2A3F638000093; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rdn4C-0004Ud-9P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:08:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rdn4B-0004UU-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:08:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rdn49-0001eg-G5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:08:31 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEAALds805cHndw/2dsb2JhbABDiUqSB5BbgQaBbQUBAQMBAQgBAQMlASMCDwQBCAIIBgEBAwUCAQMRBAEBCiUUAQQaBhYIBhMKAQICAQGHaQIGty+MDwSNLwGaAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,394,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="500776748" Received: from host-92-30-119-112.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.30.119.112]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2011 18:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01ccc0d4$b01a5fe0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4EF3689B.1030902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:08:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:469357568:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60174ef3724c550d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a terrific achievement and you are so excited, if you need one. In my case I DO NOT G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: LF: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC > LF, > > I'm totally thrilled. > Yesterday in the night i designed a circuit to automatically resonate my > LF TX system by tuning the variometer. This allows to exactly hold the > phase and hold the antenna in resonance in changing sourrounding > conditions, like upcoming rain. But the most useful feature is: It > automatically adjusts the variometer if i do QSY (remote > operation!),e.g. if i go from 137.7 to 136.172 it re-adjusts the system > in less than 5 seconds! > > A small drive engine is used to turn the small coil into the main LF > loading coil, see: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LF_variometer_drive_engine_arrangement.j pg > The drive engine works from 3...24V DC and takes 0.15A. It is steered > automatically by the circuit described below. > > The basic phase measurement circuit is taken from the M0BMU tuning meter > which one can find somewhere in the web and here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LFtunemeter.pdf BTW this tuning > meter is THE most useful device for antenna measurements at all, in my > opinion. The phase meter can directly drive an analog meter showing if > there is a positive or negative or no phase (=resonance) between voltage > and current. I took a very nostalgic and high quality analog meter to > nicely display the phase, see > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/phase_meter.jpg. The circuit works > very nice and accurate. Resonance showing and the maximum of the antenna > current exactly coincides. The circuit need no external power supply. > > The automatic motor drive circuit is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC%20Automatic_variometer_tuner%20.jp g > It uses a quad OP amp, TL084. The first stage low pass filters and > amplifies the input voltage (taken from the analog phase meter, i.e. > switched in parallel), which has a DC part and a 137 kHz ripple. Another > OP amp generates the ground level which is in the middle of the 12 > supply voltage (e.g. a battery or usual power supply). Then there are 2 > comparators and a ICL7667 MOSFET driver. The 7667 works in a H bridge > configuration and inverse switches the outputs. The outputs can be > opposite in both directions, turning the engine CW or CCW or they can > have equal potential to stop the engine. 2 BAT42 shottky diodes are > used to generate a +- 0.3V threshold voltage to prevent self oscillation > arround the resonance point. The sensitivity of this circuit and the > phase threshold (hysterisis) can be aligned by adjusting the gain of the > input OP amp stage. The 7667 provides a low impedance output switching > and easy circuit design (no discrete push pull stages or so). A resistor > is put in series to the engine to reduce its speed a bit. Also a 0.1A > poly switch type fuse is put in series. This fuse is under-dimensioned > for the engine but will work for a few seconds before it interrupts. > This a some fail save protection in case the circuit may be damaged by > what ever and wants to turn the engine endless. Two anti parallel > switched LEDs indicate a running engine and its direction. They will be > labeled with L+ and L- later on the PA front panel. > > As a test i was transmitting a key down carrier at 137.7 kHz and > activated the circuit. A short impulse, indicated by one LED, set the > variometer EXACTLY to resonance. Then i QSYed to 137.0 kHz without > interrupting the TX. Since the frequency is lower, the L is to low. Thus > the circuit acts resistive-capacitive and the phase angle is negative. L > must be increased. The phase meter first jumped into the negative half > of the meter but it took about 2 seconds until it came quickly back to > zero where it stopped immediately. > I took the SpecLab frequency generator for that test (have an IQ mixer > that adds 125 kHz to the soundcard output, so i have to generate 12 kHz > to come out at 137 kHz). Then i added the FM modulator within the signal > generator and choosed a frequency deviation of 300 Hz and a period time > of 20 seconds. This is how that transmission looks on the DF6NM grabber: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/137kHz_%2B_FM0.3kHz.jpg > Without the automatic tuner beeing active the phase meter moves like a > windscreen wiper of course. When the circuit is active the needle of the > meter does very fine twitch but does not leave the resonance > significantly at all! :-) > The experts know how the LED blinking pattern must look: Faster blinking > on one side, then slower, then the other LED starts to blink slow, then > faster, slower again and so on :-)) > > There are still no mechanical switches in series to the engine supply, > which would be another fail save circuit, to be added later, hopefully ;-) > > This may be one way for other LF transmitting stations to increase the > comfort of running their TX system by automatically adjusting their > system to resonance, even when QSYing by > 1 kHz :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: A photo of the board is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/automatic_variometer_board.jpg > PPS: Caution: This is not NEW and there are other circuits with similar > functionality existing!!!!! > > >