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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:14:24 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: 500 Beacons
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Hi John
I have always said if qrs is necessary USE IT but in the majority of cases
it is not necessary. I can hear the EU beacons in qrs both day and night at
good audio QSA and  QRK and all the others that are active, so qrs is not
necessary, normal cw about 4 - 10 wpm would be suitable like the commercial
beacons around the same QRG area.
I am sure you rember we worked on CW both ends at 1413 on the 21 st july but
earlier that morning you were on qrs and I thought it would be more
convenient for you to continue on that mode, I did not realize you were
struggling on hand sent qrs 1.
Things have improved over the years where qrs 60 was the norm on 137 khz now
its qrs 3 and who knows it could be CW before long !!!!!
Sorry I missed you this morning.
I can hear DI2AM  at present 579 and he is sending CW ID frequently, hence
good id - I do not need the computer switched on.

73 de Mal/G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500 Beacons


> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:07:05 -0000
> "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > I can also hear beacons day and nite on 505.1 but no cw for ID so do
> > not know who they are.
> >  73 Mal/G3KEV
> >
> >
>
> Hi Mal, LF
>
> Strange that you can't identify the various German & Swedish QRSS
> beacons above 505.1?
>
> I seem to remember that during our first (the first ever G - GM 500 kc/s
> QSO) you actually asked me to "send in QRSS" mode so that you could get
> your report! I presumed that my weak signal on CW was too difficult to
> read but you were prepared to try any means to bag the first GM?
>
> I actually  had to send that QRSS for you by hand ( anyone ever tried
> sending callsigns and RST reports by hand in QRSS-3 ?) but was happy to
> do so to make that QSO. I guess you received it well enough as you've
> claimed GM in your DXCC 500 list!
>
> I'd have thought that if you're prepared to use QRSS to your advantage
> when necessary that you'd be able to use it to identify the odd beacon
> signal that doesn't include a "full speed" CW ident?
>
>
> I heard you calling CQ this morning on 502.5 but by the time I got a
> chance to sit at the key and reply you'd vanished?
>
> I've spent the last 1/2 hour calling CQ myself on 502.5 but nil heard.
>
> Now QRT for other chores. I've got today off work so may be around a
> bit later.
>
> On the subject of beacons : I can see the QRSS from DI2AM, as well as
> hear his CW ident by ear, up around 505.1 - so at least one of the QRSS
> beacons up there sends real CW as ID.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> John GM4SLV
>