X-GM-THRID: 1207405171312521552 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 483203bc205dd81d480bdc81a03f2711c8d92d47 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs260329qbh; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.233.18 with SMTP id f18mr1385412nfh; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p20si294176nfc.2006.06.29.01.06.19; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FvrRN-0000gC-Cs for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:59:57 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FvrRM-0000g3-Ua for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:59:56 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net ([212.159.14.213]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FvrRJ-0004No-1T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:59:56 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1FvrRC-0000nz-Ki for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:59:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c69b51$fc13f360$1f03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh_m0wye" To: References: <200606280505.k5S55B38054415@dslgw1.aebc.com> <44A3145C.9020702@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:59:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,PLING_QUERY=0.857 Subject: Re: LF: LF/HF/VHF Spark?! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5233 Hi All, Lack of interference form Tesla coils... Thinking about it from a "conservation of energy" point of view, most of the energy must be going into producing heat, light and sound, and ripping molecules apart to make ozone. So only a fraction of the 3kVA can be being converted to EM waves. If you have a "one meter spark" as an antenna, it is not really that different to having a 1 meter loop antenna, as long as there are not other long cables acting as radiators. We wouldn't think of a 1m loop antenna as a very efficient TX aerial at LF ... VHF maybe. At LF frequencies one would might be in the near field which might have a bearing on what was received when looking for interference. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dodd" To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: Re: LF: LF/HF/VHF Spark?! > Martin Mac Gregor wrote: > >> >>The point of this saga... >> >>Latterly we discovered that Industry Canada (DOC) had too become involved >>on >>an investigative basis; we learned that during our exhibitions, local >>broadcasting and even low band TV in the immediate locale was reportedly >>obliterated but certainly interfered with. >> > One weekend, during the early experiments on 136kHz from Amberley museum, > we had a group come and give a demonstration of Tesla coils. I set up a > mobile receiving station that had the ablility to tune from 70 to 180kHz > (the fundemental frequencies of these coils) to see how strong the > electromagnetic radiation from these coils would be. I couldn't receive > anything, even when the mobile receiver was located 200m from a coil > giving off a one metre length spark. I don't think the receiver setup was > that deaf because I could hear the usual commercial and broadcast stations > in the band. These results certainly surprised me - perhaps I should have > looked in the VHF bands. > > Peter, G3LDO >