Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13833 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2004 08:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2004 08:27:37 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BxiLj-0003MK-1F for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:32:43 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BxiLi-0003MG-PE for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:32:42 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BxiGm-000NUR-Ft for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:27:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BxiG2-0000Qb-OW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:26:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BxiG2-0000QQ-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:26:50 +0100 Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net ([212.159.14.212]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1BxiFz-0006cB-BB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:26:50 +0100 Received: from [212.159.90.113] (helo=Hugh) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1BxiFs-0004lV-Rs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:26:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c485c5$8dbd2010$0a03210a@Hugh> From: "Hugh M0WYE" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <145.312b745c.2e53dfc7@aol.com> <41237C82.5070604@usa.net> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:21:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.159.14.212 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of thersgb.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: Re: LF: QRSS origin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Alberto and group, > At this point of the discussion we need a theologian to put us on the right tracks.... Sorry, the theologian was enjoying his breakfast in a remoter part of the Netherlands and missed this part of the discussion ... He was however rather dismayed by the suggestion that the chicken is first mentioned in story of Noah's, - well I can't see it there - not specifically anyway. The creation of "flying fowl of various types" are mentioned early on in Genesis, day 5, Gen 1:20 (but no eggs) - and whether you regard chicken as capable of flight is a debatable matter. The actual age and authership of the various parts of the Old Testement is rather uncertain, and it certainly isn't in chronological order. I always amazes me that in a world left to it's own devices, where all elements seem to turn to lead, and all forms of energy decays to low grade heat, that such a wonderful diversity of life should have evolved - surely there must be a benevolant hand at work ... and aren't radio waves a wonderful creation ! (But then surely entropy must be a created thing too ?) I was amused by Alberto's earlier reference to eggs and beacon(!) - and suspect this is a subtle attempt to bring the thread back on topic. I have greatly enjoyed this discussion on the reflector, but it's not really the right place for it. 73 Hugh M0WYE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: QRSS origin > G4gvw@aol.com wrote: > > [...] then I will name that egg "Paradise"! > > Ah Pat, but the Paradise is something that cannot be enclosed nor descripted by a phase space, > nor ordinary "probability density" functions can be applied to it... you are putting the egg outside > the boundaries of the realm of today's physics. At this point of the discussion we need a theologian > to put us on the right tracks.... > > Uwe, you say : > > > you all discuss in a manner not allowed according to Aristoteles logic. > > please make a step further. blow up the circulus vitiosus, forget the > > collapses and be Faustical > Well, I reread my message, but I have found nothing that violates either the "modus ponens" or > the "modus tollens" of the Sillogismus Aristotelicus.... > And then you introduce the cock as an additional actor on the scene... you seem to be a philosopher, > so may I kindly remind you that "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem" ? :-) > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > >