Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5940 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2003 21:32:31 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by netmail00.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2003 21:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15306 invoked by uid 10001); 14 Aug 2003 21:32:31 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2003 21:32:31 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19nPge-0000LI-1A for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:31:12 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19nPga-0000L9-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:31:08 +0100 Received: from p4o2b7 ([62.252.204.133]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030814213106.BWGC23096.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@p4o2b7> for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:31:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c362a3$216eb2c0$5967fea9@p4o2b7> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:29:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Variegated witterings. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, not long back home again after an enjoyable few weeks in Normandy, (not far from Lessay but the grandsons pinched the semtex for use as playdough) so, full of enthusiasm and biere rousse I set about fettling the antenna system for the autumn/winter season. During the course of this exercise I got round to measuring the length of the bit that does the actual radiating and found that it is less than 8m. (24ft. 11in. in real units) Can I therefore claim the record for the best distance to antenna height ratio? ;-)) More seriously, in the course of preparing a talk on LF for a local club and knowing that there are one or two members thereof who excel at picking holes, I went over all my voltage and current measurements and calcs (for the umpteenth time) and got a few surprises. No shocks on 73KHz where the actual power fed to the ASMU is 175W of very nice sine wave giving an antenna current of 2.2A during the last few weeks of operation on the band (after I had the line of trees under one leg of the top-loading lopped by four feet). On 136KHz things are not nearly so satisfactory. The output waveform from the long-suffering BK starts going from sine to triangular at a pretty low level of input, and this seemed to start at an output power level around 25W. I normally monitor the output waveform 'off-air' and so after the Q of the loading coil and antenna have done their work, and at saturation my measurements had indicated that I was getting 108W so I assumed I had got a 'good' amp and this was the figure I had used for calculations of system and earth resistance etc. However like the knights of old I am much addicted to simmering my carcase in lots of hot water (with bouquet garni of course) and while indulging in this pastime one evening the other brain cell kicked in to give a dawning realisation that with the output waveform triangular and not sine I would have to remeasure and recalculate - with fairly predictable results. The 136 antenna current (nice and sine) is still 2A, but the triangular output power from the amp now works out at 68W -much more in line with what I had heard of these beasts. Quite a shock to the system, so with no more ado the M0BMU mods to the BK were carried out - under epidural. Now the bitter bit. Things were now even worse, with it proving impossible to get anything like the previous output figures or a decent waveform on 136 or even 73 at any over a couple of watts so I hastily put things back the way they had been and opened the Pommeau. So todays puzzler is; How come? Anyone got any ideas? I've gone into sulk mode. Ian GI8AYZ/MI0AYZ PS Since changing over to twin feeder there are no "MIssing Amps". Accordingly the case is declared closed.