Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (rly-mf02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.172]) by air-mf01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF012-94a4787bdf729f; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:05:32 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF028-94a4787bdf729f; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:05:29 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JDPBn-0006vU-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:05:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JDPBl-0006vL-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:05:09 +0000 Received: from wmsmtp.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.253] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JDPBg-0000bF-U9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:05:09 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO g3kev) ([78.148.195.14]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 11 Jan 2008 19:04:51 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP Message-ID: <000c01c85484$d8d03880$0301a8c0@g3kev> From: "mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:04:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: LF: MF/LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n It looks like MF and LF acty has just about fizzled out. The reflector has gone the same way, no discussion or observations. LF declined a long time ago bar a couple of dedicated stations that keep plugging away. MF has not even been going a year yet in the UK and only about four stations are really active. The effort on these low bands certainly does not justify the work involved, special antennas and transmitters. On the other hand 160m is going strong both local and dxing plus all the other hf bands. With so few stations mode diversifications does not help, all using different modes and very little real communications taking place. The only consistant activity is those stations using CW. This applies mostly to 500 khz, and this band is not attracting big numbers because the TX has to be home built, antennas take up a good amount of space, that most amateurs do not have and good CW operating is an advantage, all of which most cannot fulfill. Except there is some miracle around the corner the whole thing will just fizzle out. de Mal/G3KEV