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From: "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Loops again
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:55:48 -0000
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With all the loop talk that has been going on since 
before time began has anyone found a design for a near perfect small loop, 
suppose its like how long is a piece of string, obviously the bigger the better 
but then there is the diminishing returns senario, it there much 
noticeable&nbsp;difference between a 2 meter side square loop and a 4meter. 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which is better a single turn loop, several turns 
in series, several turns in parallel and the best method of feed and matching at 
the loop.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a lot of information about all of these 
loops little and large but never used a very small loop and might try but there 
is a lot of conflicting info about the various configurations and I do not want 
to re invent the wheel so if someone has had good practical results it would be 
useful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been watching QRS activity lately while in 
the shack doing other things and notice a lot of CQ'S from various amateurs 
around the UK and Europe and sometimes all going at once, the screen is getting 
cluttered, but only a few result in QSO'S so it would appear obvious to me that 
the majority are not seeing each other, and that would indicate poor receiving 
capabilities. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I&nbsp;appear to be receiving all of the activity 
but my&nbsp;90 meter perimiter loop&nbsp;is reasonably large and is doing well 
on receive but not as good as&nbsp;my vertical, however I would like to try a 
very small loop and compare results, but I dont want to build several 
small&nbsp;loops varying in design, if someone has already done this and knows 
which ones to forget about. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know location is also important, good ground, 
reasonable and poor ground etc under the loop and some use loops&nbsp;to null 
out qrm&nbsp;but I am not concerned about qrm, this location is&nbsp;rural 
and&nbsp;as qrm free as one can get, this is why my vertical is also good on 
receive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please dont tell me to read the Comic, I 
need&nbsp;todays&nbsp;technology. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>73 de Mal/G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
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