Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27302 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2000 14:41:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Dec 2000 14:41:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 16252 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2000 14:36:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 7 Dec 2000 14:36:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1441zi-0002Mw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:25:58 +0000 Received: from [206.100.10.38] (helo=cobalt4.source.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1441zP-0002Mq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:25:57 +0000 Received: from parissn2 (AMontsouris-101-1-4-91.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.216.91]) by cobalt4.source.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA11720; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:24:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01c06059$a08a2de0$0700000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, lowfer@qth.net References: <200012062125.QAA6027635@indyweb.cgocable.ca> Subject: LF: Re: [Lowfer] LEK's QRSS-CW signal copied in Canada using CRUNCH Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:12:35 +0100 Organization: SC Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Bill and all, Thanks for the CRUNCHed file. I took a close look at it, to see how well a machine might decode it. First, I found the spectral peak at about 799.875 Hz. This is amazing Tx and Rx frequency accuracy. Dividing by the 40x speedup factor, the error at LF is only three millihertz!!! Demodulating at that frequency, I then searched for the bit timing. I assumed that elements were precisely three seconds long (0.075 after CRUNCH), and just looked for the phase. A CW signal has a discrete spectral line at one half the element rate, because the key is down far more at odd element times than at even. For example, "LEK" is key down for 14 elements; 11 of those are in the odd intervals. So I just shifted a window of alternate elements until the signal was maximum. Using the phase obtained above, a rectangular matched filter was then applied, obtaining this result: http://www.scgroup.com/ham/lek.gif Amplitude is arbitrary linear "voltage" units; phase is in degrees (and not meaningful when the key is up). You can see that "LE" could be easily decoded, but noise towards the end of "K" would result in a bit error, regardless of the threshold chosen. Coherent detection did not help in this case - I suspect that the path caused too much phase jitter. However, a sophisticated program which knew the rules of Morse might be able to correct the error. So, IMO, it will be a while before robot QRSS decoders can compete with the human brain. But, if we all use the same precise element timing, it should be possible to have an automated *detector* of QRSS signals, which could trigger a screen capture or audible alert. Bill, if you have the audio file before CRUNCHing, could you please post it to your site or email it? I have been playing with some noise reduction schemes, and would like to attempt an S/N improvement on this signal. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill de Carle" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: [Lowfer] LEK's QRSS-CW signal copied in Canada using CRUNCH > If you go to my web page at: > > http://cafe.rapidus.net/bill1/bbs.htm > > down at the bottom of the page you'll find a link you can use to > download a file called QRSS-LEK.ZIP - it has a few seconds of WAV > file snipped from last night's overnight CRUNCH run trying to hear > lowfer LEK. > > Although I've copied Lyle before using BPSK, I believe this is the first > time I copied him on CW; the signal came through in the wee hours of the > morning, Wednesday Dec. 6th, 2000. I have Lyle's co-ordinates in > Aitkin MN as 46.53013N, 93.71042W and my QTH in St-Adolphe d'Howard, PQ > Canada is at 45.9351N, 74.2993W. Just re-calculated the distance using > Clarke's ellipsoid: it works out to 1495 Km or 929 miles. > > Antenna was a 30 x 20 foot rectangular tuned loop. Rx was a Kenwood > TS850S with external freq standard. Computer was a Compaq laptop > with a 100 Mhz Pentium processor running CRUNCH V3.0. An S16 PCMCIA > soundcard was used for 16-bit audio input. CRUNCH settings were: > 40:1 time compression, 800-Hz CW tone out, 300-Hz bandpass filter on > the output. If you have CoolEdit handy you can do a frequency analysis > of this file (select the entire snippet and press the SCAN button) - > it shows Lyle's signal on 800-Hz jutting up just a little over the > smoothed background noise envelope. > > If you listen carefully you can just hear Lyle's CW ident in there - > starting about halfway through the audio snippet, you'll hear "LEK" > very distinctly. The signal is weak so you may have to play it over > a few times in LOOP mode before you get it, but it's definitely there. > This is a good example of a signal that seems to come up out of the > noise when you listen to it over and over. It's the equivalent of > the "GRAB" process but done in your head. Pretty neat! > > VE2IQ > > To unsubscribe, send to MAJORDOMO@qth.net "unsubscribe lowfer" (Do not > send to list!!) Send on list submissions to lowfer@qth.net >