X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c6884f3e8a1405e956ee2de2612a32c71568597a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs115206qbh; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6411305nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si1112797nfb.2006.08.20.05.23.20; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmFy-0004kW-79 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GEmFx-0004kN-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:21 +0100 Received: from smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.69]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GEmFt-0005Od-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:18:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 25999 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2006 11:42:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.69.42 with login) by smtp809.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2006 11:42:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c6c44d$c6dc73a0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:41:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.704 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7044 The acid mentioned in a earlier posting was Hydrofluoric acid, a very dangerous acid, not because of its strength but of the way it attacks the skin. The use of this is not to be undertaken likely, despite the fact I believe it was used for cleaning stone buildings of grime. I guess that was before all the Heath and Safety legislation. With sealed crystal units the final trim is usually based on the weight of metal electrode evaporated in vacuum onto the quartz surface. Some change in frequency can be made bt thickening or reducing the electode....electrolytic plating of copper on was suggested at one time, though I have not tried it....the use of gold plating solutions is also highly dangerous !! It is probably cheaper in peace of mind if nothing else to shell out for a custom rock, because any of these processes with compromise the stability and aging rate of the unit. With old FT-243 and 10X holders I recollect that a proprietary brand of abrasive cleaner was found to be quite effective (Vim or Ajax in the UK ). All but the finest grades of carborundem (emery ..Aluminium oxide is better) can result in the blank quickly losing parallelism and ceasing to oscillate. For larger movements it is better to lap several blanks of the same start frequency simultaneously by "wringing" them down on a glass plate with hot candle wax and then lapping them against another piece of plate glass. It is possible to move them 500kHz without losing activity this way. Great fun, but quite frustrating sometimes as the desired rock would lose activity just as you got it near to the required frequency ! Cheers de Alan G3NYK