Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11322 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 13:59:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 13:59:44 -0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Bo0az-000JE9-Ll for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:00:21 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Bo0aM-0000yS-5j for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:59:42 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Bo0Zj-0005DJ-Jd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:59:03 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Bo0Zj-0005DA-8F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:59:03 +0100 Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.46]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bo0Za-0006nJ-N4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:59:03 +0100 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.84.117]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040723135857.YQFM2500.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@captbrian> for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:58:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c470bd$80166e20$75540150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C470B0.228BAA70.actalbot@southsurf.com> <41010FB4.7010207@usa.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:01:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I disagree. To the best of my knowledge the E-H antennas never demonstrated anything more than one would expect from what they were.; ie short antennas with inductive centre loading and capacitative end loading .. They fitted normal theory quite well as did the ephemeral "fractal" antenna. Bryan G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto di Bene To: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:16 PM Subject: LF: Re: Loops v Verticals > Andy wrote: > > >Well... > >That may not always be the case. > > > >If experimentation disagrees with theory you need to check that everything is > >accounted for, before assuming the theory is wrong and reworking it. > > > >[...] > > > You just beated me in saying that. Look at the EH antenna, where a bunch > of empirists pretend > to rewrite the Maxwell's equations, on the basis of "a new theory of the > electromagnetic field", > which, unfortunately, noone of them has been able to put on paper using > the language of > science, mathematics. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > >