Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9E87438000098; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rbuok-0008An-5X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:00:50 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rbuoj-0008Ae-No for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:00:49 +0000 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbuoh-0002Zt-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:00:49 +0000 Received: by wgbdr10 with SMTP id dr10so7160177wgb.28 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.208.134 with SMTP id gc6mr8050026wbb.3.1324130441159; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.208.134 with SMTP id gc6mr8050022wbb.3.1324130441065; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Win7Pro (host81-132-147-53.range81-132.btcentralplus.com. [81.132.147.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en20sm17500518wid.10.2011.12.17.06.00.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:00:40 -0800 (PST) From: Terry GW0EZY To: References: <033201ccbcab$5c5fe640$1502a8c0@Clemens04> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:00:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000901ccbcc4$42768fe0$c763afa0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acy8sn8hvUXt9xDITD+R6/txVDZhCAABqF/A Content-Language: en-gb x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AiND CEt6 CNx0 Ck1y Cw8C DyED E0uv FwJs Gvzl HG0a HWNN JCtv JpjN KAx+ Lmk1 LnR5;1;cgBzAGcAYgBfAGwAZgBfAGcAcgBvAHUAcABAAGIAbABhAGMAawBzAGgAZQBlAHAALgBvAHIAZwA=;Sosha1_v1;7;{37AE74D6-6538-497D-9315-995374AF10C2};ZwB3ADAAZQB6AHkAQABzAGsAeQAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:00:34 GMT;VwBlAGwAbABiAHIAbwBvAGsAIABMAGkAdAB6ACAAYQBuAGQAIABMAG8AYQBkAGkAbgBnAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {37AE74D6-6538-497D-9315-995374AF10C2} X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: Wellbrook Litz and Loading Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:408363168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40da4eeca0b92ce7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none First of all thanks to Andy for starting the Wellbrook discussion - it has been very useful for me. James - thanks for the information on the pros/cons of using Litz wire. Although it seems obvious now, I hadn't realised the meaning of 10/44. Mal - thanks for your helpful advice and info on your antenna loading arrangements. I am still trying to picture it all in my mind but it seems like the sort of relatively simple system I'm looking for - especially keeping to 50 ohms. I have yet to find a supplier of the metal lined CH pipe (Srewfix B&Q??) Thanks to Chris and others for the links to potential replacement DIY amplifiers for the Wellbrooks. I've downloaded the available info and look forward to trying several of the designs. Roelof - I'm fascinated by your description of the "post-mortem" on your dead Wellbrooks. I am particularly interested how to separate the aluminium loop from the preamp box without damage to the loop. I was tempted, some time ago, to use some Toluene offered by a friend to remove the potting compound. I decided against as it seemed a highly toxic and dangerous procedure! Maybe I can contact you off-line for final details of the dissection? Clemens - The Wellbrook was probably damaged when I was testing a friend's FT1000 at 200 Watts into a 30-17-12 dipole with centre about 3 metres separation. Normally I disconnect the Wellbrook PSU when Tx on hf but in the excitement of playing with a new toy I forgot. An expensive and annoying mistake as I had received the loop as a present from my XYL about 10 years ago. It is not completely dead - but has lost ~20 dB sensitivity. 73 Terry