X-GM-THRID: 1205925275142971774 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a75dcd453ccf727677656496feaf446369ec8ad3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs12974wrc; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.3.20 with SMTP id f20mr2543198nfi; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g1si5796029nfe.2006.06.11.14.06.01; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FpX4L-0003g0-W1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:02:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FpX4L-0003fr-Fi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:02:01 +0100 Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl ([62.58.50.89]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FpX4I-0000CH-OR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:02:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 8493 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2006 21:01:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.52]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 11 Jun 2006 21:01:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c68d98$e2fe4d60$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:51:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.131,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.374,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: LF: Re:PA4VHF/p TX problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5177 First off all thanks to Mal and James for picking up my signals. Thanks Alan for your comments. Well, I did tune the system with the help of a low power TX before running high power. I think the problem might be caused by the step up transformer I used to go from 50 to 150 Ohm, before coupling into the vario meter. So, this was the set-up , maybe someone point out a possible trouble-source: TX--about 2m of aircell 7 coax, followed by an step up transformer on a large ring core N30 material, (epcos core N30, R58, with 2mm CU-wire) one end of the transformer is grounded to the groundstakes/some radials, there is a fixed tap at 16 turns which is the 50 Ohm input. Then the turns continious, and I can choose output taps at 20, 23, 26, 29, 32 and 36 turns. >From this point the transformer feeds the variometer (1.2-2.3mH) and on top of the variometer is the large coil with several taps 2-8mH. Antenna: 8meter multi strand wire 4mm diameter, then a spiral coil, diameter 1meter, 400uH, followed by a top load: 16 wires, each about 1 meter long, and 4 toploading wires 10m each. There was certainly an amount of RF on the 4 topload wires, one of them touched an tree with some nice sparks etc as a result, and a drop in RF-field (solved this problem later) Luckely the tree didn't catch fire........ An practical problem is that the variometer and big loading coil are in a sperate box, and it is not possible to change their position. (using the big loading coil as first coil, tapping the coax on it......) The problem might be core saturation, because when I switched the TX to more output, the antenna current didn't change much. Doubling the output changed the antenna current from 0.9A to 1.2A or so. I first thought there was something wrong with the meter ciruit (1A or 5A full scale), because wasn't able to push the meter above roughly 1A in the 5A scale (1A scale was end-stop......) Yesterday after 30 minutes CQ-ing in the evening I found out that the step up transformer core was very hot (couldn't touch it.......) So, perhaps I should trow out this core and use an air wound coil to transform 50 to 100-300 Ohm. Any suggestions about size/turns etc, or the use of other core material? 73 Dick, PA4VHF