Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15816 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 07:52:13 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 07:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3245 invoked by uid 10001); 31 Oct 2002 08:57:59 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 08:57:59 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 187A7A-0006Mf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:40 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.45] (helo=mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187A7A-0006MW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:40 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.104.104.33]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021031075138.MBZ27595.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c280b2$7262b240$216868d5@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000801c28039$8c6dea20$fa567ad5@main> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:52:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Mike's insulators ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group G3NYK wrote: > Hi Mike, and all, could it be that the insulators are good.....I cannot > really see Decca (or Racal ) using rubbish in the PAs...... Might it be that > Perspex will burn if there is an ignition source. In this case the ignition > source is the 'sharp' end of the wire, which is subject to corona discharge > (mini plamsa torch) when excited. I don't think it was corona. Corona tends to be quite small and erode slowly. What I saw was a yellow arc some 8cm long, running the length of both insulators. This is not the normal property of a good insulator. When used by Decca, these bits of transparent plastic are not in contact with the Litz wire. they hold the slotted triangles that hold the wire. Perhaps there is less need to make these good insulators. The triangles themselves are certainly good for RF. I use one as a stand-off to prevent the up-wire touching my mast in a high wind. They are brittle, however, and would not be suitable when pulling strain is involved. The really good bits from the Decca sites are definitely Perspex and are originally about 40cm long by about 5cm and some 40mm thick with a large hole at one end. I have chopped these into 10cm lengths for use on the antenna. The problem that Peter had with salt on his insulators is, I understand, also troubling the French railways after the storm. Mike, G3XDV http://www.lf.thersgb.net ====================