Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9099 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 09:01:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 09:01:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25986 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 09:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 09:01:36 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16je6b-0005Bi-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:29:37 +0000 Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.41]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16je6a-0005Bd-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:29:36 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.104.106.70]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020309085133.FPQJ9422.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:51:33 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c1c747$e05ed000$466a68d5@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re. Loops Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:53:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Bill A wrote: > > ......so for tranmitting it would seem to be a good idea to have a bottom > wire on, or in the ground. > The problem is that the soil losses become fairly large. Think of the loop > wire with a huge donut-like AC magnetic field surrounding it. This field > doesn't seem to like the composition of the ground, which in effect, adds > series resistance to the loop circuit. I find the best compromise in > reduction of soil loss Vs maximizing the loop area by keeping the lower > conductor at least 5ft above ground. This distance could vary depending on > the soil type. The soil here in the Boston area, is composed of at least 60% > sand, covered by a thin layer of top soil. > >This would have the added advantage of making it possible to use a very > thick or multiple thick >wires for this part of the loop thus reducing the > total loss resistance by almost 50%, with a > >consequent considerable increase in efficiency. For the bottom wire of my 73kHz loop, I used 3-core mains flex at 5ft above ground. My wife used it as a washing line! Mike, G3XDV ==========