Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7100 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 08:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 08:07:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24200 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2001 08:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 22 Feb 2001 08:07:16 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Vqf8-0002sa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:42 +0000 Received: from mta5-win.server.ntli.net ([62.253.164.45] helo=mta5-svc.virgin.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14Vqf7-0002sS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:41 +0000 Received: from p.cleal ([62.252.40.36]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010222075923.CSGA23863.mta5-svc.virgin.net@p.cleal> for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c09ca5$6cf97ac0$2428fc3e@p.cleal> From: "Peter Cleall" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:42 +0000 >>How about in the short term we agree to put an unambiguous marker >>in the subject line for the high tech postings (ie [TECH]) and then >>subscribers who do not want to see the postings can filter them straight >>to the bit bucket. >>Stewart G3YSX I am in no way convinced that we can discipline ourselves to correctly categorise our messages. We need one reflector with a policy of restricting ourselves to one topic per message. Most of us, will often, cover more than one topic in an e-mail. Even the heavy QRM from Scarborough or the output of the high tech guru of Portsdown Hill, will sometimes, amongst the detail, have provided some gems of information of value to many other people who are at different stages on their LF learning curves. If we wish to report activity, discuss our latest antenna measurements, sort out a problem on QRSS software, report propagation conditions or consider various GPS stability and timing issues then we should send 5 separate messages with suitable subject lines. We need to be more selective on the use of to whom we send our messages and how we reply to incoming one's. Before we send each e-mail we should be asking "Should it go to an individual or should it be general to the reflector". If it may be helpful to others it should go on the reflector. Then we should ask "is it clear from the subject line that this is an existing thread or a new subject" then we should ask "Is there any part of the e-mail that is aimed at a different aspect which should be sent separately". First hand experience of being a member, simultaneously, of a number of closely related lists, in a totally different field from Radio, is that cross posting is a major problem, different posting times to each list leads to fear of missing things which leads to checking everything. All my lists have a similar mix, technophiles, technophobes, raw beginners, experts, silent majorities and noise generators. We do not have a unique problem. I think the solution lies in receiving all LF e-mails from the one source, as we currently do and learning how to manage our e-mail better. I use two techniques I transfer mail into different subject folders, some are Inbox folders and some are desktop folders, some are automatic and some need manual intervention. I have set the e-mail system "view" to show a small number of subject lines and a large preview pane. The preview pane allows very rapid checking of the e-mail contents without opening them and deletion where necessary. [ I am just as guilty , the last few sentences should really be on a separate e-mail with a different heading, or should they ??] regards Peter G8AFN