Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4132 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 21:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 21:20:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16723 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2001 21:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 20 Feb 2001 21:20:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VK4S-0008Be-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:11:40 +0000 Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.43]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VK4Q-0008BY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:11:39 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.104.102.17]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010220211121.BJNJ10171.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:11:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c09b81$a093c860$116668d5@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3A92A910.108E46E9@netscapeonline.co.uk> Subject: LF: Re: TR QSO Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:10:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: GI3KEV wrote: > As John points out EME procedure(TMO reporting) means full callsigns and > reports must be fully exchanged between the two parties ......... ....... > On the vhf and hf bands a qso also means the same thing but using the > RST procedure. What rubbish. Thousands of QSOs take place on the HF bands, especially during contests and DXpeditions where neither station sends both calls, and the report is always 599 no matter what the RST really is. This is considered absolutely normal practice. Just try sending both calls on the frequency of the D68C expedition and see what happens to you! To be valid, a QSO must include the exchange of some information not previously known. This was the T, M or O report. There must also be no abiguity about who is being worked. Unless someone else with a similar callsign claims to have been on the precise frequency with a good signal, there seems no doubt whatsoever, that what was received came from the right stations. A 160m sked where calls are known in advance and 599 is exchanged is much less valid than what Larry and Laurie did. Whether the timescale made it valid is a separate issue, but don't compare with HF procedures - it doesn't work. Mike, G3XDV