Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.23]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-8bf34b5357b1168; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:32:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 65A2A38000094; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NWZuC-0008Ah-Hy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:31:20 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NWZuC-0008AY-3f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:31:20 +0000 Received: from out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.243]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NWZu8-0000er-AI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:31:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoGAPflUktZ8hve/2dsb2JhbACIKswkhDIE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,292,1262563200"; d="scan'208";a="437105905" Received: from unknown (HELO your91hoehfy9g) ([89.242.27.222]) by out1.ip07ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2010 18:31:09 +0000 Message-ID: <000701ca97a3$3e67bd90$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000a01ca9530$c4ee97a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><004901ca953b$6e896e70$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <20100114214523.i1xor1rdk0ccogkg@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:31:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 1/2 wave 500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41174b5357af7f4e X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Ref ur calculations Rik with my inv L I am running only 0.565 w erp. Have u got ur wires crossed. How do u get ur figures for a dipole at 100 ft high on 500. as 0.25 ohm Rr I am not looking for a QRO pa to get to 10w erp g3kev From: "Rik Strobbe" To: Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 1/2 wave 500 Jay, Mal, I think that a "low" dipole is only meaningfull above poor soil. At 20 ft (6m) above a perfect ground the radiation resistance would be only 0.25 Ohm. But in contradiction to a short vertical the dipole would work better over poor soil. At 100ft a dipole would have a radiation resistance of about 6 Ohm (over perfect ground. But even at this height it will radiate at very high angles (as Mal suggests), so probably good for Europe but poor for DX. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting "jrusgrove@comcast.net" : > Mal > > I worked WD2XSH/35 in South Dakota a couple weekends ago and heard > him a couple times since. Here's > his e mail to me on his setup. Think it should read one leg N/S and > the other is E/W. Note that it > is at 20 feet! Appears to work. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > ____________ > > Jay, > > I have an ICOM 706MKIIG feeding aqn attenuator which feeds a > transverter from 7.2 MHz to 500 KHz. > The transverter is feeding a solid state amp. I am running about 10 > - 15 watts ERP. The antenna is > a half wave dipole on 500 KHz about 20 feet above the ground in a > N/S and E/W configuration. one leg > is N/S and the other is N/S. > > I am listening on a ICOM 756PROII and a HyGain Hytower. > > 73 > > Jim > > WD2XSH/35 K0HW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:45 AM > Subject: LF: 1/2 wave 500 > > > Hi > Has anyone in the USA tried a 1/2 wave dipole on 500 K/cs? inv V > design, at a modest height around > 100 ft. > de mal/g3kev > > >