X-GM-THRID: 1197309208955490965 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 84d6ceeb6e5655a7c375606b5f1e278a8aa20a6b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.71.12 with SMTP id t12cs26470wra; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.234.13 with SMTP id l13mr549675qbr; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:37:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f13si408848qba.2006.03.08.10.37.19; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3UE-0004kd-Rg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:34:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FH3UE-0004kT-9v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:34:14 +0000 Received: from newbox.tcp.net.uk ([195.80.0.243]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FH4TA-0002CQ-RD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:37:17 +0000 Received: from d4f8d8 ([212.248.140.10]) by newbox.tcp.net.uk (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k28ITtQ2000316 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:29:57 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.375 [268.2.1/277]); Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:29:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c642de$46eabe40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> From: "Andy Talbot" To: References: <030820061539.18005.440EFA980004BD4A0000465522007613940B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <01dd01c642d8$e6cbc180$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <002701c642db$d1ebcb40$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:29:46 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TCP-MailScanner-Information: Please visit www.tcp.co.uk for more information X-TCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TCP-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-TCP-MailScanner-From: actalbot@southsurf.com X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.073,BAYES_00=-2.599 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Real QRP tests continued Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6205 Ok - Just resurrected the old linear 5W LF test transmitter so that will do if necessary. The synth trace is rock steady on a scope when compared with its input reference signal, so no nasty internal PLL artefacts, and it does generate what it says on the dial. The synth has been used before to drive a microwave beacon and it was happy with 24/7 operation for a few months So ready when you are... Any 1Hz step Andy G4JNT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: Real QRP tests > Yes, I've now got a commercial synth that goes down to 100kHz in 1Hz steps > which should solve your need for N/M Hz intervals. It can supply up to > 13dBm so putting that into my (-36dBi) gain antenna may be enough. If not, > can always add a quickie amplifier module > > You can either have the carrier derived from Caesium (2 - 3 hours notice > needed) > or from GPS (30 minutes notice) > > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Martinez" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:51 PM > Subject: LF: Real QRP tests > > > > >From G3PLX: > > > > If there's anyone within about 500km from me at 54N 3W (i.e. daytime > surface > > wave range) who could transmit a few micro-watts of very stable > (preferably > > GPS-derived) carrier on 136kHz, I would like to run some tests with my > new > > GPS-locked reception scheme to see how low we can go and still detect that > > there's something there. It may take some time to detect the signal, but > > with that sort of low power there shouldn't be too much problem with > leaving > > the transmitter on for a day. A quick calculation says that 25mA r.m.s. of > > antenna current into an average antenna should produce plenty enough > signal. > > That's only 150v rms or so, depending on the antenna. The more stable is > > the signal, the lower down I should be able to detect it. > > > > Any one for QRPP? > > > > 73 > > Peter G3PLX > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 2006-03-07 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 2006-03-08