Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11386 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2000 22:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Feb 2000 22:03:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Gqhj-0004M6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 21:55:51 +0000 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.93]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Gqhi-0004M1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 21:55:50 +0000 Received: from [62.6.87.194] (helo=default) by rhenium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12GqhV-0000Cj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:55:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf6f59$f41d5a00$c257063e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: 73.4kHz Rugby ...more thoughts Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:41:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi All, yes Mike I do take on board that things have got considerably worse during the last 12 months. I decided to listen tonight (Friday) to see if I could detect any traces from you. In fact after logging one weak continuous trace about long enough for a CQ or an over, I spotted some strange quirks in the display. I spent the next hour monitoring the sidebands of Rugby. The 100Hz sidebands are not I think anything at all to do with the power supply. The transmission is shift keyed with a shift of 100Hz and the sidebands are a function of the shift not hum from the PSU. So I am afraid we are going to have to put up with them. I suspect though I do not have any recording to check, that the transmission has changed from FSK to PSK aand this may account for some of the extra spread (?? conjecture) but..... Has anyone actually looked carefully at the 100Hz lines?? On my dispay they were zooming about all over the place. I have one trace with an 18Hz 'drift' over a 4 minute period. Now it is my appreciation of angle modulation that the spacing of the sidebands are determined by the modulation (increase the mod frequency and they move apart) and their position is determined solely by the carrier frequency (if the carrier drifts 10Hz all the sidebands will move in the same direction by 10Hz) {Please, someone, kick my rear if I have misunderstood my Bessel functions) Unless I am mistaken what I see is that there is in fact a serious fault on the transmission!! It also occurs to me that is there is an instability manifesting itself as a drift over 10s of seconds there could also be 'noise' modulation. As a result (with my tongue stuck firmly in my cheek) I intend to inform my local RA office (which is a sub-office of Birminghan and so covers the site) in writing, of the faulty Rugby transmitting equipment, causing interference to amateur users. I know we have no protection against primary users, but we should not have to contend with badly maintained transmitters. I also intend to copy the letter to the RSGB and to the RA at Canary wharf. I will suggest that as this interference from an govenment transmission has persisted for a period which could be upwards of 12 months, perhaps they would consider delaying the closure of the band to amateurs, to allow our experiments to be continued. (I am on good terms with the local RA 'boys' ) That should be good for a bit of a laugh. Before I send this missive on Monday I would like confirmation that some of you can also see this sideband line 'drift', just to confirm that it is not a product of my own equipment. It is interesting to note that my unsynchronised (VFO) signal generator (TF2002B) stays within a Hz or so for hours on end. I suspect if they clean it up then we will be able to work between the tram-lines again. It is interesting that they were obviously looking for something on Tuesday. You may remember that CFH went off for a day soon after it reappeared. This was due to a power supply instability on the exciter according to Jon and was creating all sorts of havoc. So the professionals DO have problems. Another 18 months on 73 yet?? well we can hope. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com