Return-Path: Received: (qmail 74320 invoked from network); 9 May 2004 20:57:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 9 May 2004 20:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6297 invoked from network); 9 May 2004 20:57:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 9 May 2004 20:57:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BMvMt-0001Gj-BO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:57:51 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BMvMH-0001IY-Jb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 21:57:13 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BMvMG-0001IP-QR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 21:57:12 +0100 Received: from hafnium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.121]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BN1uf-0006HN-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 04:57:09 +0100 Received: from [213.122.79.194] (helo=Main) by hafnium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BMvLx-00059C-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 21:56:54 +0100 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <000601c43608$23aa0600$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001701c43602$1b335540$2102000a@ibm> Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:56:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=1.052,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: TX-ouput transformer problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Dick, I dont know whether the calculation is valid in this case but I dont see why not. I have always measured the inductance of the the primary winding and adjusted the turns until the reactance (secondary open of course) is at least 3 times the driving impedance. The driving impedance is probably not quoted by Dave but you can work back from the turns ratio to the 50 ohm secondary. In the case of a narrow band transformer like this situation, it might be better (more efficient) for the reactance to be 5 times the driving impedance impedance. You should also be able to work out what the reactance of Dave's transformer would be because the turns per uH should be quoted for 3C89 cores in the references. It would sound as though your LOPT cores do not have as high a permiability as Dave's cores, or maybe there is a slight effect from the air gap. I have certainly wound working transformers on old LOPT cores. I hope that helps ...if I've screwed it up no doubt someone will correct me. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" To: Sent: 09 May 2004 21:02 Subject: LF: TX-ouput transformer problems > Hello all, > > I completed my G0MRF-transmitter, and today I've done the > first tests on it. > All is working fine, except the output circuit. > > As far as I can see now, the outputt-transformer on the FET's is > not good. > > I'm using an old core from the HV-circuit of a computer monitor. > I got this tip from Jim, M0BMU a while ago. > Core size is about 63x39x14mm (2 "C"shaped halves, held together > with a metal spring clip) > I payed a lot off atention to have no air gap. > > Used 10 turns on the primary side, centre tapped. > (That means 2 times 5 turns.......) > Secundairy coil max. 21 turns with taps, all as described in the > original design. > Well, at 15V drain voltage I already had 9Amp........ > With 40V over 50 Ohm....... > FET's got hot........ > I changed primairy to 2 times 7 turns instead of 2 times 5 turns, > and that gave me 15V, 5Amp with also around 40V over 50 Ohm. > So, higher efficiency...... > > I wonder if anyone has experience with these core's and have hints about > number of turns to be used, before I start to get into endless rewinding > coils etc. > > 73 > > Dick, pa4vhf > > >