Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17842 invoked from network); 1 May 2002 11:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.last.plus.net) (212.159.3.230) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 1 May 2002 11:46:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14601 invoked from network); 1 May 2002 11:03:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (212.172.148.70) by mx.last.plus.net with SMTP; 1 May 2002 11:03:48 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 172taD-0006iZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 May 2002 13:51:45 +0100 Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.176]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 172taC-0006iU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 May 2002 13:51:44 +0100 Received: from host62-7-71-201.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.7.71.201] helo=default) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 172s3G-000660-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 May 2002 12:13:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c1f101$34cd0fc0$c947073e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: TV SMPSU QRM...idea?? Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:12:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, is is not always very easy to use the to reject the the drifty harmonics of SMPSUs from the 136 received signal. I discussed a couple of ideas with Steve, GW4ALG but we did not pursue them further at the time. My suggestion was to receive the local interference on its fundamental frequency maybe 35kHz or 70khz, then multiply it up before subtracting it from the 136kHz incoming signal. I am not sure how easy it would be to do this (or even whether it is really feasible). There are obviously problems and certainly I cannot think of an easy way of multiplying the signal other than mixing it with itself. Maybe someone cleverer than I could see a solution, and even see whether it would be a useful tool. The advantage as I see it would be that the signals are very strong on the fundamental, and easy to separate from genuine radio signals at that frequency. Only a narrow band of signals at 34,45.3,and / or 68kHz need be 'collected.After processing the system should not reject any real wanted 136kHz signals. It is also possible that this susyem would deal with multiple sources of qrm, which is the shortcomming of the simple phasing system. Go one ....tell be I am off my trolley...but please explain why !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com