X-GM-THRID: 1208270376132360637 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: d98256a21062057a136181de5e78038a97d7298a Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs207339qbh; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr1859380nfq; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73si9867948nfb.2006.07.07.16.40.44; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fyzt4-0002gH-83 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:37:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fyzt3-0002g8-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:37:29 +0100 Received: from smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.201]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fyzt0-00012d-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:37:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 47660 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2006 23:37:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.117.175 with login) by smtp811.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2006 23:37:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c6a21e$4c168260$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <004b01c6a1ec$92156fb0$6501a8c0@eagles> <014d01c6a217$9c3cdde0$7900a8c0@athlon1200> <007c01c6a219$4d3e79e0$6501a8c0@eagles> <44AEE973.6000103@telus.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 00:37:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.663 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Antenna Tuning Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4904 Or even describe how you are testing for resonance. I am worried you are taking into consideration all the "what ifs" that have been raised, many of which are 2nd order effects and really you need to keep it all as simple as possible at this stage. You obviously have too much inductance (for 136) and need to reduce that considerably first. I reckon you still have about twice too much inductance (30% too many turns) and dont forget if you are anywhere near a Loran-C chain you will receive a massive signal at 100kHz. That could make the waveform look a little odd. Actually you ought to be able to tune the wire by just putting the variable inductor in series between the wire and the RX and varying the the inductor for maximum received noise. ( This is how my rx Marconi is run.) Then adjust the inductor and work it up to 136KHz. I think also that this is best done at the antenna feed point not at then end of 250feet of coax. The matching and tapping, or transformer, if really necessary, can then come later. I am afraid I look at extra components like transformers as sources of extra loss. They shouldnt be necessary and you ought to be able to do it with a tap or a link coil on the loading coil. . Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Tilley To: Sent: 08 July 2006 00:08 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Antenna Tuning > J. > > Some pictures of the situation there would be of great assistance to all > of us and may help in troubleshooting this great mystery! > > Beg, borrow or steal a digi camera! > > Scott > > > > > >