Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5345 invoked from network); 2 May 2003 09:46:08 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 2 May 2003 09:46:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16748 invoked by uid 10001); 2 May 2003 09:46:08 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 May 2003 09:46:08 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19BX60-0001Xx-Ct for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 May 2003 10:44:48 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.46] (helo=mta6-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19BX5j-0001XR-8v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 May 2003 10:44:31 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.77]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030502094426.JPPI22800.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c31086$fc337a40$4de4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030501122017.03163398@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 17:57:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: MOSFET audio amp mods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-13.3 required=5.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: LF: MOSFET audio amp mods > Dear LF Group, > > I'm sending this again - it didn't work first time! > > I looked up what I did to the Maplin audio amp to increase the slew rate as > described yesterday - The mods should also be applicable to the BK amp > modules, judging by the circuit diagram on p4.23 of the "LF experimenter's > source book" entitled "BK Electronics OMP MF300 Module". The major > difference between the circuits is the BK amp has pairs of output devices > in parallel (to drive a load of 4ohm instead of 8 ohm I guess), while the > Maplin amp has single devices, and the input stage of the BK amp is biased > by an active current source, while the Maplin amp has a simple resistor. > There are a few other minor differences in component values mainly. See the > attachment on the basis that a picture is worth 1000 words! > > In theory, to get an output voltage of 28V RMS into 4 ohms, giving 200W, a > minimum slew rate of 2.82.pi.f.Vrms = 34V/us is required at 137kHz. My > Maplin amp had a slew rate of 22V/us before the mods, and about 60V/us > afterwards. The small-signal bandwidth was more or less the same at about > 1.5MHz. Full output could then be obtained on 136k. > > Reducing the value of the 27p compensating capacitors will also increase > the slew rate, but will inevitably also reduce the phase margin, and > therefore increase the possiblity of the amp becoming unstable. It may or > may not work OK, depending on the individual amplifier, and the effect of > the frequency-dependent load impedance. > > It seems these audio amps are not as popular for LF these days, presumably > because people are looking for higher power with better efficiency. But if > the US LF allocation arrives with a 100W power limit attached, MOSFET audio > amps could be a useful form of linear for the band. Jim don't encourage anyone to use an audio amp of any sort. A proper LF RF amp is the only way forward. In the past reading from here, there were bucket fulls of explode FETS, in spite of some sophisticated mods they seemed to be unreliable, and using mains electric cable to the antenna loading inductor did not help.I could fill another COMIC with the stories that I have heard. G3KEV > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU