Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26613 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 11:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 11:33:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 28275 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 11:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 11:33:31 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 166VRy-0001SO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:21:54 +0000 Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.177]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 166VRx-0001SJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:21:53 +0000 Received: from modem-9.ciryon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.148.9] helo=g3aqc) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 166VRG-0003cx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:21:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c1727e$a02660c0$0994883e@g3aqc> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Measuring Q Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:20:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Further to Peters experience, I have used the same method:- ie lightly couple a sig gen into the coil (I use a single turn of wire ) resonate to the required freq. and find the 3db points with an oscilloscope again lightly coupled.I get very similar results with all my loading coils Q=150 to 200 only.I have also tried the same technique with small inductors for filters and here find it very difficult to measure anything above 250. One point with the large inductoras is that nearby objects reduce the Q considerably I try to keep the coil at least one diameter from all objects including the bench or table. Like Peter I have been dissapointed with the figures I obtain especially when I have seen figures like 600 mentioned. There was a technique of measurment in an article in QEX Sept/Oct 2001 The Art of Making and Measuring LF coils by IW2ACD and IK2WAQ which claims Qs up to 600 and they use a measuring technique which series resonates the coil and drives it from a very low impedance source through a transformer.I have yet to try the technique but can recomend the article. There is another article in the same QEX which deals with the Q of coils in a mathematical way. 73s Laurie.