Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69333 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2004 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Dec 2004 19:43:09 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CZagl-000HGw-Pp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:03:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CZagl-000HGb-0U for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:02:59 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CZaNX-0001aT-Rl for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:43:07 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CZaND-00033y-Ke for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:42:47 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CZaND-00033p-7w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:42:47 +0000 Received: from h34.rdg.cp.net ([209.228.29.84] helo=n068.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CZaN6-00011F-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:42:47 +0000 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.229.165) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 419EA27C00105B07 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:42:34 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c4d7b1$774c7860$a5e5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <66a845f1.a7e52307.832da00@mail05.onetel.net.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:25:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 209.228.29.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=0.599,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: Linear modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian G3YKB" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: Linear modes > Hi All > > Sorry if this lengthy message is a bit controversial but I > feel I ought to comment on some of Mal's statements: > > > >Normal RTTY would not be acceptable on LF this has > >been discussed many times before. > > As a newcomer to the band (only 18 months of listening and > reading the Reflector) I guess I have missed all the > discussions re LF RTTY. However, what I can contribute is the > (perhaps obvious) observation that the band seems to be > extremely underused - was it always like this? Even at "peak" > times I have not seen any more than 300 Hz of the 2100 Hz in > use. > > >I would suggest that those interested in LF should > >learn CW. This mode is more likely to attract new > >users on LF. > > I know of two new LF operators who don't want to use CW and I > suspect there are a LOT more who would be interested if there > was an alternative to learning morse. Remember that in the > past 18 months, many thousands of "code-free" amateurs across > Europe have been given access to LF & HF. The fact that they > did not learn morse to give them access to all the HF bands > indicates to me that CW would be a DETERRENT rather than an > attraction! > > >Data modes are useful if there is a large volume > >of traffic to move between stations. > > Agreed - things like describing station equipment, exchanging > ideas and experiences.... > > >The average radio amateur only exchanges Name, > >QTH, and QSA/QRK > > I guess I'm not average! I prefer a longer conversation. I > would venture to say that LF operators are FAR from average. > LF is one of the few bands where you can be fairly sure that > the chap (or chappess) at the other end has had to assemble > much of his equipment and aerials rather than just write a > cheque. > > So, in the absence of a narrow-band medium-speed keyboard Most cannot use a keyboard and just fumble along, CW would be the easiest option > mode that can be transmitted through a non-linear amplifier, > is it time to review how we make best use of our 2.1 kHz ?? > > Regards > > Brian G3YKB > > > > > > > > > > > > >