Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23705 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 18:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 18:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 21748 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 19:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 19:00:54 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FhPy-0007FA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:53:18 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FhPx-0007F5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:53:17 +0000 Received: from [62.7.3.145] (helo=default) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14FhPi-0005PV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:53:03 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c079a4$45e1d780$9103073e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: VE1ZZ and 136.00kHz Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:10:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, I have hesitated to get involved in this discussion up to now, but could I plead that Jack's transmitting frequency is not decreed by operators who who have no facilities for QRSS weak signal reception. The UK is not the only area interested in making a contacts with Jack. In Continental Europe the section from 135.950 to the bottom of the band is useless for weak signal reception. Also the normally designated QRSS slot is close by DCF39, as we know from 73kHz that extra spacing can make a lot of difference. Here, probably the most easterly station in the UK, I can receive an intermodulation product on 136.0kHz from Mainflingen that would make reception of Jack impossible. As it is on 136.5 he is sitting a much weaker IM product from that site, which makes reception difficult before it fades at midnight. (These are not due to my equipement failings, as confirmed by Markus DF6NM) As I understand it the suggested band usage was for normal everyday use and it works well. Jack is an exception to this and all we ask is a slot about +/- 20Hz either side of 136.5 from say 2300z to 0500z. That leaves a considerable chunk of the band for normal morse operation at a time when it is normally dead quiet. If an operator who is not party to the goings on, operates on 136.5 well we must accept that....it will happen in the best regulated circles. I am aware that many operators do not want to be involved in QRSS, but you might be interested to hear that in my opinion Jack's strength last night was approaching the levels where an audible contact is possible (remember Dave did hear him !). This knowledge has only been achieved by continuous monitoring of his signal by computer. My aerials are by no means the last word but I estimate Jacks signal was a few, well maybe 6-10dB, below where I could hear him between 0100z and 0230z. It might just be worth listening in that frequency, as results suggest he may be stronger earlier further west from me. This is the Centenary of the first radio morse character to cross the pond, lets mark it style! Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com