Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13635 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2000 11:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 2000 11:34:04 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12TNZx-0006XK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:27:37 +0000 Received: from ulexite.lion-access.net ([212.19.217.2]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12TNZu-0006XE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:27:34 +0000 Received: from w8k3f0 (1Cust18.tnt6.rtm1.nl.uu.net [212.153.214.18]) by ulexite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with SMTP id 4F20FFAEE8 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:26:36 -0100 (GMT) Message-ID: <000201bf8a84$7f4e0940$12d699d4@w8k3f0> From: "Dick Rollema" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8438.200003092109@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: Antennas Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:30:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: To All from PA0SE Jim, M0MBU, wrote: >Software such as EZNEC gives the result that there is > zero propagation along the horizontal with anything other than > perfectly conducting ground, but we all know this is not so. That is so because the program does not compute the surface wave. Maker Roy Lewallen, W7EL, wrote to me: "'Only the professional versions of EZNEC (EZNEC-M and EZNEC/4) directly report the ground wave. However, a reasonable approximation of the ground wave strength can be gotten by using the EZNEC near field analysis. This is because the "near field" analysis actually calculates the total field, both near and far, including the ground wave. The near field analysis results are available only as numbers; they are not plotted as a graphical pattern". I found out that the same applies to the program AO by K6STI that I use. In the region where field strength of the ground wave decreases in a linear way with distance the ground wave fills the area between the pattern lobe presented by EZNEC or AO and the surface and the result resembles the pattern that the programs (and text books) show as the vertical radiation pattern of a short vertical antenna over perfect ground. 73, Dick, PA0SE