X-GM-THRID: 1238265643600325557 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs120690hue; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 16:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.98.9 with SMTP id a9mr2674025ugm.1180914225775; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9si11043499nfh.2007.06.03.16.43.42; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Huzh0-0001gR-DI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:41:02 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Huzgz-0001gI-U8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:41:01 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Huzgy-0000Mm-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:41:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 10294 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2007 23:39:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=C6EzDWsZ01EpspmvgBLo45RzvIA9CerYfMEOv+4KKor075zOpqMcKZPnQK3k038wZ0dytU5T9xFxj18ipQNdMMHLwDaOMlDABfeln1MjAuVCaqH/9C0wpama1BsXNFKGMXDtDv3yncn1rjIrDoNg8VKTjC/EtKDjco2W1OU4E7g= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.29.60 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2007 23:39:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4qOn0yUVM1kvL5.u.eW9OQCi_zXK1GI.GKg5cxPwJ_FYp4tq9lvk.cQoj_FoRkQM5eKHTzzso48IE.hck9ESoOYuwvkD2Fu8HapQ19VCb.yYwyxX Message-ID: <000001c7a638$7d0c83a0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <466297FE.29620.598C297@localhost> <4662B25B.18265.16679D6@dave.davesergeant.com> <4662C157.7080901@m0dts.co.uk> <001901c7a61c$522ca0a0$0300a8c0@lark> <46633470.1020408@m0dts.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:31:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136kHz Getting started.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6886 Hi Rob LF Forum, well this is it, this is where it all happens ... world-wide....but there also is the LWCA Message Board and their LowFer reflector. There is also a VLF reflector (I think that is run by the NASA INSPIRE project people) that is more in tune with natural radio, whistlers and such....below 22kHz generally. You wont find a lot of technical chat on here as a lot of the early band users have moved on, and we have not had many newcommers recently.Most of the tech chat has been refering to 500kHz, some of which is pertinent to 136k. 500k is also very much easier than 136k (about 10 times...the square of the frequency ratio) just as 136 was easier than 73k (the factor about 4 here). Dont let the quietness put you off, ask a question and you are bound to get answers, LFers are a very sociable lot. I think Peter Dodd has an archive of selected reflector technical e-mails on his web site. Many of these sites are linked through Dave G3YXMs web site http://wireless.org.uk/ Yes qsl.net is slow these days but it is a freebie so they cant afford the bandwidth I guess. Many like Alberto of ARGO fame have mirrored their sites, but then you have to put up with pop-ups and ads. I think I have an image of Rik's site if you find you are getting nowhere, but I am not sure its is fully up-to-date. . The 706 is well known to be deaf at LF. With a small aerial you need a preamp like the kit Dave G0MRF does. When Peter G3LDO was in Morroco he needed two of them !! They have a tight filter as well. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob, M0DTS To: Sent: 03 June 2007 22:36 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136kHz Getting started.. > Thanks for the tip on the loop tuning, will try that out tomorrow and > see the difference it shows. > > The mixer and amp is just a temporary setup to see if i would be lucky > enough to see any signals....hmm > As in the other post i am receiving with my ic-706IIG now and seems a > bit better for spurious than the wideband mixer! > I'l make a crude filter tomorrow for the input and hopefully cure the > main breakthrough probs but i am now hearing things... > > I'l try Rik's site sometime when qsl.net actually responds.. anyone else > notice it is really slow these days?! > I'm using spectrum lab for the monitoring, have used it as a general > monitor for all souncard stuff for a while now and very impressed., i > also use winrad for sdr and weak sigs etc.. > > Are there any other forums on the net for LF and VLF, seem very hard to > find any meeting place for common interest in 136KHz like the handy > on4kst setup for eme/vhf and up skeds etc.. > > Thanks for your web link too Alan, will have a look through later..... > > > Rob